Hi Folks. Please contact me off list about this. I don't want to clog up the list. Thanks.
Darryl Thayer wrote at 10:47 AM 2/13/2009: >Hi Mike >I think that NABCEAP is an important part of the solar community, I would vote >for them being allowed. perhaps a limited time access incase there is >problems. >Darryl > > >--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Michael Welch <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Michael Welch <[email protected]> >> Subject: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:16 PM >> Hello Wrenches. As always, please contact me off list about >> this subject if you would like to weigh in. >> >> This is your list, and I run it by a consensus of your >> wishes. If any changes are to be made, I have tried to at >> least come close to a consensus among the Wrenches (not >> manufacturer reps) on the list. We now have a proposed >> change in policy before us. >> >> I am being placed under pressure by Ezra Auerbach to add an >> otherwise nonqualified NABCEP staff person, Rebecca Eaton, >> to the Wrench list so she may respond on behalf of NABCEP if >> Wrenches are discussing anything to do with the org. >> >> First, I often receive membership requests from >> nonqualified individuals. Unless they are technically >> proficient, they are respectfully turned down, and have >> included (among others): the general public, casual >> installers, academics, trade organization staff, union >> staff, and now NABCEP staff. I think you have clearly and >> appropriately drawn the line that we want pros on this list >> in order to keep the discussion quality high. >> >> Second, the only exceptions to this have been >> "technically proficient" representatives of the >> companies that manufacture the equipment that you Wrenches >> install -- and some time ago, we reached consensus to allow >> any fully NABCEP-certified individual, working pro or not. >> Ezra believes that the manufacturers' privilege should >> be extended to the NABCEP staff person. >> >> Third, I have offered Rebecca, and she accepted, the same >> thing I offer other nonqualified individuals that might some >> time want to post to the list: send your post to me, and I >> will post appropriate messages on their behalf. I have done >> this several times over the years and in fact, did it for >> Rebecca once already. >> >> Fourth, there are at least 3 NABCEP board members on this >> list. While they may not be prepared to respond with the >> nuts and bolts of NABCEP workings, it seems to me to be good >> representation on the list. At a minimum, these members >> could alert their staff, who could then respond through the >> already-available mechanism mentioned above. >> >> Until now, my efforts had been behind the scenes, but now >> it has come to a head and I need to involve you because this >> morning I rejected a list post from Ezra that was an end run >> around my off-list efforts. Here is that post: >> >> >Hello Wrenches, >> > >> >I'm writing to you all wearing my "Chairperson >> of NABCEP" hat and wishing to seek your collective >> guidance. >> > >> >The question is: Should the Executive Director of >> NABCEP be able to post to this list on matters germain to >> the organization? >> > >> >Following the NABCEP Rant thread our ED tried to get >> posting access so she could issue a timely and factual >> reply. She was turned down and as it stands today she can >> not post relevant and informative replies. >> > >> >A very long time ago this list allowed designated >> representatives from manufacturers on to this list so they >> could speak directly when appropriate and we all have >> learned good stuff from the ensuing dialogue. >> > >> >It seems ulitmately silly to me that NABCEP >> Certification "qualifies" for list posting access >> but being the ED of the organization does not. >> > >> >Please weigh in with your collective thoughts. >> > >> >Best regards, >> > >> >Ezra Auerbach >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Options & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: [email protected] > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: [email protected] Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
