Absolutely, the operating environment and temperature is higher than a panel 
mounted 3" off the roof deck. There are some roofing methods intended to help 
minimize the heat buildup, but nothing beats air flow. You can used what is 
called an elevated or counter batten system to help with air flow under the 
tiles. Some counter batten systems can achieve a 2 - 4" air gap under the 
tiles. The back of the roof tile has an open web design that allows air to flow 
across the back tedlar sheet.
 
I think that there is some de-rating incorporated into the PTC value of the 
tile, but was not involved in that portion of the testing. I tend to use a 40° 
addition to the expected ambient air temperatures when calculating string 
Voltages.
 
Brian C. White
Sr. Design Engineer - PV System
 
Eagle Roofing Products
120 North Auburn Street - Suite 212
Grass Valley, CA  95945
Phone: 530-273-2948
Cell: 530-575-5550
e-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
 
 

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From: [email protected] on behalf of Antony Tersol
Sent: Tue 3/31/2009 1:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 2, Issue 364


Since the tiles are the roof, how does increased temperature affect production? 
 What factor do you use to reflect the decrease in production as compared to PV 
modules mounted on racks at 3+" above the roof?  





        Message: 1
        Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:11:46 -0700
        From: "Brian White" <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV shingles again
        To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]>
        Message-ID:
               
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        We are using the Open Energy / Applied Solar Inc. roof tile, but I 
guess it is not a shingle technically speaking. The product is better suited to 
new construction (90% of our business) than retro-fits when it comes to cost. 
One thing that you have to remember when selling a tile product is that you are 
offsetting some of the cost associated with the roof, i.e. roofing material and 
installation. With the tile product from OE / ASI (which is actually 
manufactured and warranted by Suntech) it does not go on the roof, it is the 
roof, class A rating and everything.
        
        To all getting ready to send me an e-mail about marketing, I am not 
trying to sell the product, but did help design it when I worked for them, so I 
have first hand experience.
        
        Someone made a comment about running conduit from one tile to the next. 
We do not view this requirement the same, and do not install any type of 
conduit above the roof. The requirement for metal conduit states that metal 
conduit has to be used from the point of building "penetration" to the first 
disconnect.
        
        The one advantage that I really enjoy, is that with the tile, it makes 
system sizing much easier as far as string Voltage is concerned. Each tile is a 
6.07 Voc, so you can just add or subtract as many tiles as needed to get to the 
sweet spot of the inverter.
        
        My 2 cents.
        
        (to all, my apologies if that funky attachment comes with my e-mail 
that I was informed of previously, it has something to do with my remote 
access, and is not harmful)
        
        Best Regards,
        Brian C. White
        Sr. Design Engineer - PV System
        
        Eagle Roofing Products
        120 North Auburn Street - Suite 212
        Grass Valley, CA  95945
        Phone: 530-273-2948
        Cell: 530-575-5550
        e-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        
        
        
        


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