William:

If you don't get some formidable reputable discussion, much more and better 
than my anecdotal evidence can provide, on this subject, I would be _very_ 
surprised.

I would like to make an initial distinction between "boxes/technology that 
work" and overpriced products.

Respectfully,

Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Miller 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Energy Savings - What is Real?


  Joel:

  Added to this list of "black box" hoaxes should be battery de-sulfators.

  William Miller


  At 06:53 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote:

    It frustrating to work on a customer's RE system and have to tell them that 
they are being bamboozled by sales pitches for so-called energy saving devices. 
You might want to share this paper with your customers.

    The latest Association of Energy Engineers (AEE) quarterly Energy 
Engineering Journal has an paper titled "Power Quality Solutions and Energy 
Savings - What is Real?"

    See http://www.plantservices.com/wp_downloads/pdf/0903_Power_Quality.pdf

    "The problem is that some of these solution providers have significantly 
overstated the savings and the customers are deceived. What these solutions 
provide excellent protection, they often provide very little, if any, energy 
savings."

    Joel Davidson 


  Please note new e-mail address and domain:

  William Miller 
  Miller Solar
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