Hi, Walt

You are correct about what you point out below, especially the closing 
statement.  It's a madhouse sometimes dealing with under-developed areas.  I 
did that quite a bit in past years in Africa and S. America primarily and 
somewhat in Eastern Europe too.  This was mostly for various global missionary 
operations, etc.  But these endeavors were more ancillary activities to my 
primary market activities which were industrial systems and OEM clients, such 
as Motorola.  That was when I ran the Eastern US distribution office for the 
old Photocomm.  I had one large client in Zaire [since re-named again to the 
Congo] which had huge requirements for various medical power systems - entire 
hospitals, over 200 remote clinics, nursing schools, staff housing, etc.  That 
was the ISROS Project [US AID/United Methodist Church - Global Missions].  Even 
then there were highly unstable political/military conditions preventing 
deployment of those system materials.  I could have gone there to "supervise" 
but we sent an engineer instead since I had my hands full already running the 
regional distribution office.  Good thing too probably.  My engineer was 
arrested as soon he deplaned by the military in Zaire.  For nearly a month he 
was held incommunicado for reasons we only learned of later once the US Embassy 
got involved.  On top of that, there was the business of local armed brigands 
trying to heist the trucks while they were struggling to make headway toward 
the remoter areas to make the necessary materials dropoffs.  This whole 
scenario went on for close to two years.  So, I have to tip my hat to someone 
like yourself who's working under somewhat similar circumstances presumably.  
And, yes, these people really need that stuff desperately.  It's not a matter 
of .. consumer discretionary spending .. for them.  It's a matter of life and 
death most times.  Barring remedy, they are cooked.  Even more, UPS and Fed Ex 
won't be making convenient weekly deliveries to them any time soon, if ever.  
They don't fancy making deliveries in war zones anyway.  Frankly, who could 
blame them?  But something resembling life must still go on, somehow.  I have 
no idea how they do it, truthfully.  Naked perseverance is my best guess.  It 
seems a tale of two utterly differing worlds.  I would suppose that in these 
current days things are even more queer than ever.  Assuming one can even 
imagine that.

Jim


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Walt Ratterman 
  To: 'RE-wrenches' 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ishaq M. Shahryar passing - Memorial


  Hello James,

   

  I hear what you are saying about Afghanistan and from your perspective, you 
certainly make a lot of terrific points.

   

  Done correctly though, these systems can be put to use beneficially to save 
lives all over the world.  The places that are at war are the more difficult 
ones because of the risks involved.  Sustainability sometimes has to be 
re-defined.  But lives are saved, and in large numbers.  

   

  I work extensively in Burma in the middle of ethnic cleansing areas and have 
so for years.  I have worked a good bit in Afghanistan, including only weeks 
after 9/11, and last year.  In some ways (in many ways) they need help more now 
than they did in late 2001.  

   

  The difficulty is doing things in large quantities effectively, and working 
through governments.  In most cases neither is feasible.

   

  Thanks a lot for your thoughts.

   

  Walt 

   

  Walt Ratterman

  SunEnergy Power International

   

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  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James A. Hartley
  Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:12 AM
  To: RE-wrenches
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ishaq M. Shahryar passing - Memorial

   

  Well, that might be a good gesture in principle which I'd consider assuming 
times were better, and different.  But they aren't, yet should be.  That's the 
sort of thing technology might and should embrace in such turbulent times as 
these especially.  But it won't do so for that intended purpose I suspect.  The 
west is more concerned that the Afghan poppy fields are continually well played 
in the so-called free market.  And the black market too.  Then there is the big 
issue of who controls those critical oil transport conduits.  One also has to 
wonder how long a million solar modules would withstand a thousand bomb blasts 
in that current envirionment.  I've never been there to assess the 
possibilities.  My former Russian wife was there, serving as a Russian army 
officer in the 1980s, live-fire combat situations no less.  It was really ugly 
stuff.  I could tell it had changed her deeply.  She was damaged in the heart.  
Still is I suspect. That's what that shit does.  The Russians are some real 
tough nuts, but you don't mess with the Afghans.  Several "empires" tried it 
over the centuries.  They all failed.  Then again, try another approach to them 
- like solar power.  They might "buy it" because they could use a beneficial 
outlet for their own better energies.  In that sense Shahryar could truly see 
his work rewarded meaningfully somehow.  There you go, Obama.  Change the world 
constructively.  I dare ya.  Surprise me.  But I'd sooner count on people in 
the streets first.  Enough of politics.  There's serious work to be done.  
Thank you, Mr. Shahryar.  I used to compete with you years ago.  You were a 
straight shooter.  Even when I had to hide behind a rock, you had wicked aim.  
We fought well. Go in peace.

   

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: bill roush 

    To: [email protected] 

    Cc: RE Marketing for home scale RE industry 

    Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:33 AM

    Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ishaq M. Shahryar passing - Memorial

     

    I would think a good memorial would be for the US to honor him with a gift 
of millions of solar panels, BOS and the training to go with it, in his name, 
to Afghanistan. 

     

    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:01:56 -0700
    From: "Joel  Davidson" <[email protected]>
    Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ishaq M. Shahryar passed away Sunday evening,
           April 12,       2009
    To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]>
    Message-ID: <074306f1da0f4b87ac8f52cf654c2...@joel>
    Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
           reply-type=response

    I am sad to say that our dear friend Ishaq M. Shahryar passed away Sunday
    evening, April 12, 2009. Mr. Shahryar was well known in the solar industry
    as the successful founder of Solec International, the first terrestrial
    solar cell factory. The New Scientist magazine titled him The Sun King and
    reported that he "virtually invented solar power as a serious energy
    source." Mr. Shahryar loved America and his native homeland, Afghanistan. In
    2002, the former Afghan King Mohammad Zahir Shah asked Mr. Shahryar to
    represent his homeland which he accepted to become the first Afghan
    Ambassador to the United States since 1978. His Excellency, Ambassador
    Shahryar served pro bono and also invested much of his own money in the
    embassy. After serving as Ambassador, Mr. Shahryar returned to California to
    start a new solar company, Sun King Solar. The solar industry, Afghanistan,
    his family, and his many friends will miss Ishaq dearly. He is survived by
    his wife, Hafizah, son, Alexander, and daughter, Jahan.



    The funeral service will be held 1:00PM, Saturday, April 18, 2009 at the
    Hollywood Hills Forest Lawn Memorial Park, 6300 Forest Lawn Drive, Los
    Angeles, California 90068 (tel 800-204-3131).



    Sincerely,

    Joel Davidson

    -- 
    Best,
    Bill Roush
    Heartland Solar Energy Industries Association
    www.hseia.org
    Heartland Renewable Energy Society
    www.heartland-res.org


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