Hi,
I find the inverter generators by Honda awesome. During our northwet
winters I have to charge a couple times a week. The fact that engine
speed and attendant fuel consumption relate directly to SOC saves me
huge amounts of fuel.
I don't even mind doing the finish charge part of the cycle as by then
my gennie is idling.
And it's always easy to get a jug of gas, even when the propane barge
is broken down (see Murphy's Law for why this only happens when I need
propane).
Best regards
Ezra Auerbach
p.s. Thanks to everyone for the kind words and good wishes on my new
job at NABCEP.
On 11-Jun-09, at 9:38 AM, "Dana" <[email protected]> wrote:
Good point Travis and I have a client who is not a good energy
manager and
has gone through [6] 3,600RPM generators in 8 years. Not enough
solar and
too many electronics for the kids.
One good 1,800 RPM would have gotten them through all those years at
a lot
less cost. Sounds like you need a new mechanic. We have a local
"Mobile
Mechanic" who only does generators and stationary pump [irrigation]
engines.
I will cringe come the day he does not answer his telephone.
Dana Orzel
Great Solar Works, Inc
www.solarwork.com
E - [email protected]
V - 970.626.5253
F - 970.626.4140
C - 970.209.4076
"I'd put my money on solar energy. I hope we don't have to wait 'til
oil and
coal run out before we tackle that."
-Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey
Firestone, March
1931
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis
Creswell
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:27 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator
If I may humbly offer different opinion, I no longer specify 1800 RPM
generators because they are ridiculously expensive to begin with and
when
the do break it's long after warranty and they are ridiculously
expensive to
fix.
I've have been pleased with the 3600 RPM Kohler's. We've done
numerous
propane 12kW (which very nicely match up to a dual oven quad stack)
and
recently did a 17kW and other then a stuck fuel solenoid which was
replaced
under warranty by the local dealer at no charge they've been fine.
It was
completely off grid and we didn't catch any flax although we
certainly did a
few years ago so around here they seem to have slacked on the off
grid no
warranty thing.
It boils down to simple math for me. We've inherited numerous 1800
RPM
generators over the year. These customers have gotten $2000+ bills to
replace to $5 relays (etc), some times within a few weeks of the
last one.
These 3600 RPM Kohlers cost less then $4k new including a pad,
enclosure and
shipping compared to a lot more for the 1800 RPM units. Put that
$8k you
save into PV and you'll very likely get 10+ trouble free years out
of the
3600 RPM Kohlers. I've got several getting up to 5 yrs old now and
they are
still as strong as they were the day there were installed. They
only get a
few hundred hr's or year and a 1/3rd of those could be eliminated if
the
customers were better energy managers.
Just my .02 and it may or may not work in anybody else's climate.
Best,
Travis Creswell
Ozark Energy Services
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dana
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:42 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator
We use both ONAN & KOHLER. Last time I checked ONAN's smallest was
20KW/240
VAC. KOHLER had more smaller units. The lack of choice is due to EPA
compliance and then I think the economy, but not sure on the latter.
If it does not get too cold or could be installed indoors [as in a
shed]
diesel gets more watts / gallon but LPG is cleaner to deal with.
Dana Orzel
Great Solar Works, Inc
www.solarwork.com
E - [email protected]
V - 970.626.5253
F - 970.626.4140
C - 970.209.4076
"I'd put my money on solar energy. I hope we don't have to wait 'til
oil and
coal run out before we tackle that."
-Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey
Firestone, March
1931
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
roger dixon
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:31 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator
I use a military surplus 15 kW gasoline genset, converted to
propane, and
wired to an ATS for emergency backup power. I am grid connected, no
batteries. It works fine and runs my entire house when I need it.
If you
want more details, please give me a call.
Roger Dixon
Certified Wind Site Assessor
Skylands Renewable Energy, LLC
908.337.2057 cell
908.730.6474 fax
[email protected]
www.skylandsre.com
.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian
Woofenden
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Propane Generator
A client with a remote off-grid system and two OutBack FXs is looking
for the right generator to buy.
He prefers propane because they already have it on site.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Ian
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