I've worked on supposedly ungrounded high voltage systems on Electric vehicles. Got zapped when I touched the frame and a battery terminal. There definitely can be mA of leakage to ground, even if its not supposed to be there. Otherwise I welcome the move to ungrounded DC. Gee, red is positive, black for negative color coding is actually NEC compliant on an ungrounded system.....

R. Walters
Solarray.com
NABCEP # 04170442       



On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:03 AM, boB Gudgel wrote:

toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
"If neither pole is grounded then both must be treated as potentially hot."

_Only with regard to the other hot wire._ If you do not reference one conductor to ground than the other one will not present any danger unless you are referenced to its mate... as in touching both wires at once.

Todd
Except of course, if there is more leakage (capacitive) from one ungrounded wire to ground than the other ungrounded wire to ground. You may still feel a tingle... The higher the voltage, given similar leakage, the higher the tingleage. (is that a real word?) I am more apprehensive about touching ungrounded and live things (although sometimes I do). People have a larger area and
therefore a higher capacitance than birds do.

This applies for AC (mainly) of course.

boB


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