Allan,

Using a T-240 fed from the 30 amp twist lock, non GFI, outlet with 240 volts and then taking the stepped down 120 volts into the Outback looks like it would solve the problem of having two neutral to ground bounds. It is a little pricey for the extra T-240 needed but it means not altering the new generator and possibly voiding the warrantee. It also leaves the 2-20 amp GFI receptacles on the generator in their proper working order for future use.

Thanks for the helpful fix

Larry

On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote:

Larry,
The single VFX3524 takes 19A plus loads from one leg, way overloading that 120V leg. Your best bet would be to add a T240 or PSX240 to balance both
legs. Then use the 30A 240V receptacle on the Genereck. The twist-loc
receptacle doesn't run through a GFI, so the tripping will go away. Plus your VFX can overload and trip the 20A breaker when charging at the full 19A
and a surge load comes on. This would likely solve that.

Contact me off-list if you'd like a pdf copy of the off-grid gennies article
in Home Power; it will help explain a bit about wiring with the !)$%&@
bonded-chassis neutral and a few other issues.


Allan Sindelar
al...@positiveenergysolar.com
NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Positive Energy, Inc.
3201 Calle Marie
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
505 424-1112
www.PositiveEnergySolar.com


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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry Brown
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:11 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] generator

Fellow Wrenches,

On an off the grid system we did for a client a year or two back, we
installed an Outback VFX3524 mounted on a Midnight Solar E Panel.
They had a manual pull Homelight generator as back up. All worked well.
Recently the client upgraded to an electric start 8000 watt Generac
generator.
Now every time they start the new generator, the GFI 20 amp
receptacle on the generator pops.
There is probably a redundant neutral to ground bond that is causing
this but I am uncertain on the best approach to remedy this condition
Any recommendations or experience on how to get the generator to
interface with the system?

Thanks
Larry

Larry Brown
Sun Mountain
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