I did have the valve covers off and cranked it over a few times, as that was an 
easy check, all good there, valves, springs, rockers, push rods all functioning 
fine, this motor is really clean w/ only 262 hours, and about 40 hours on the 
last oil change. I manually pushed on each valve to check spring tension too.

When I had the visible plug wire off, on the service side of the motor, the 
engine actually ran pretty good. Then I unplugged the back side and tried 
running it on the front side plug, it did sputter, but not run good. Then with 
both plug wires installed it flat won’t sputter or run. This is a strange test 
to do, I accidentally left the one side unplugged, and when it started and ran 
good I thought the fresh spark plugs fixed the issue, cracked plug or?

Is it ok for me to call Carl directly today?

 

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester

Solar Wind Works
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Phone: 530-582-4503
Fax: 530-582-4603
www.solarwindworks.com <http://www.solarwindworks.com/> 
[email protected]
"Proven Energy Solutions"

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:25 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Kohler 8.5RES ignition glitch

 

I beleive it's in the wireing compartment just above the AC connections. I 
think it's a potted module with a few pots showing (to adjust output) and the 
connectors. Maybe a status LED depending on vintage.

 

Just got off the phone with Carl. (802-259-2775). He's telling me that there 
are two coil modules that run off the flywheel on that unit. one for each 
cylinder. (Besides the  AC control module in the Wiring compartment). He also 
tells me he doesn't think that's your problem, because you have spark on both 
cylinders and fuel, and he's never had to replace one of the modules. He 
suggest it's more likely a stuck valve. (Wrong oil? -- should be synthetic). or 
a keeper came off. easy enough to check -- just pull the valve covers off and 
see if the valve stems actually move and are intact. let us know what you find? 
db


Dan Brown
President
Foxfire Energy Corp.
Renewable Energy Systems
(802)-483-2564
www.Foxfire-Energy.com
NABCEP #092907-44

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Kohler 8.5RES ignition glitch
From: "Chris Worcester" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009 1:49 pm
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <[email protected]>

Do you know where the ignition control module is located?

 

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester

Solar Wind Works
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Phone: 530-582-4503
Fax: 530-582-4603
www.solarwindworks.com <http://www.solarwindworks.com/> 
[email protected]
"Proven Energy Solutions"

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:28 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Kohler 8.5RES ignition glitch

 

Sure sounds like a faulty ignition control issue. might be a poor connection 
either at the module or at the crank angle sensor. I do have a call in to me 
Kohler dude on your behalf. (I generally like to set up a xfer / Alt. AC input 
source -- usually in conjunction with a j box out at the genny -- especially 
for me off grid folks. then when their genny goes south, they can wheel up most 
any POC and get running again.) (John's idea) db

 


Dan Brown
President
Foxfire Energy Corp.
Renewable Energy Systems
(802)-483-2564
www.Foxfire-Energy.com
NABCEP #092907-44

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Kohler 8.5RES ignition glitch
From: "Chris Worcester" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009 11:47 am
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <[email protected]>

Hi Wrenches,

Hope you’re all having a great Thanksgiving weekend! I have a disabled off grid 
client with a vintage Sept. 2006 PV/Gen Hybrid system we installed. The Kohler 
8.5RES LPG has 262 hours on it. She called us letting me know they had a power 
failure. After trouble shooting the system in a snow storm, I’ve deduced the 
Kohler’s timing is not correct. We have spark on both cylinders & put in fresh 
plugs just in case, 11” water column on the propane, & it actually runs on one 
cylinder at a time. When both spark plug wires are plugged in it won’t run. The 
battery is good.

Kohler was closed Friday, we tried WA, CA, OR, WI, & CO for tech support. Does 
anyone have a service manual for this unit? I believe it’s the ignition control 
or possibly another part of the ignition that has failed.

Any help or advice here will be greatly appreciated as always! Thanks in 
advance.

 

Sincerely,

Chris Worcester

Solar Wind Works
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Phone: 530-582-4503
Fax: 530-582-4603
www.solarwindworks.com <http://www.solarwindworks.com/> 
[email protected]
"Proven Energy Solutions"

 


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