I have also had a great experience using "Easy Feet" from Direct Power.  You 
use four of their screws per foot and Jeff Randall there can give you pull out 
specs in roof decking, as I recall they match or exceed that of the Lag/rafter 
combo.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA  95983
530-284-7849/6544 fax

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [email protected] 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Foam Insulation Install


  Antony,
  Right on!  The Eco-fasten will solve the issue - it's been pull-out tested 
sans-rafter penetration. Have bought the eco-green fasteners from them, will 
again.  As far as dealing with them - it's a great pleasure to be able to talk 
to someone with good product knowledge that will take the time to answer stupid 
questions. 

  Holt E. Kelly
  Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
  500 Jewell Dr.
  Waco TX. 76712
  254-751-9111
  www.holteksolar.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Antony Tersol 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:33 AM
    Subject: [RE-wrenches] Foam Insulation Install


    Have you looked at EcoFasten mounting.  They have a mount that uses 8 
screws per attachment, so can theoretically hold without going into the 
rafters.  Then could use a large flashing over that to integrate with the 
shingles. 


    I think they're an offshoot of AlpenSnowguards in Vermont.  We started 
working with Alpen to source S5 clamps several years ago, and have found them 
great to work with.   


    We're a West coast company - there were lots of other distributors closer, 
but Alpen got and kept our business.  It's kind of funny - when I call them, I 
feel like I'm talking with someone in one of those old hardware stores with 
everything you need right there in bins, and when I call the other guys it 
seems like someone in a sales office who never handles the product.  


    The EcoFasten crew is similarly helpful, and they have some well thought 
out products.  The name I have in my rollodex is Chris Sterns, at 877-859-3947. 
 


    http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten


    Their website is pretty comprehensive, and includes leak and load tests and 
building code info.  Other cool mounting products too.
    -- 
    Antony Tersol
    Solex / Applied Solar Energy
    831-333-1919



    You wrote:


    For residential install with the spray foam insulation

    Underside of deck has 12"+ of foam.....no way to accurately locate rafter
    there.....hammer and ear also out of the question...........don't think any
    of the stud finders will work....been told that peeling back shingles to
    locate rafter is only accurate way.......would like to avoid that if
    possible..........any suggestions?

    Holt E. Kelly
    Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
    500 Jewell Dr.
    Waco TX. 76712
    254-751-9111
    www.holteksolar.com


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