Andrew,
Carter era contractors did not kneecap alternative energy industry in the
1970s, but that's not a wrenches subject.
Sure, everyone has stories about bad customers, GCs, subs, equipment, etc. Some
of us are honest enough to admit that we have made a mistake or two. You don't
have to work for or with people you don't like or buy equipment you don't like.
But I don't know anyone in the building or energy industry who does not work
with others.
Few contractors nowadays do all the trades in-house. Do you sub out structural
engineering, surveying, roofing, arborist, concrete cutting, crane, etc.? Then
what's wrong with you being a sub if you like the other guy's work and can
control design and electrical installation or whatever you need to control?
There are plenty of decent contractors in your service area who would like to
have a good go-to PV company just as you like to have good go-to roofer. You
know your design and electrical costs and what margin you need for that portion
of your work. So what's the hassle?
Joel Davidson
----- Original Message -----
From: Solar Energy Solutions
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,new
installation methods
Joel,
Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system. When we
help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize unsubstantiated pv businesses.
We get a dozen phone calls a month from folks wanting us to install their
systems. It is a rat hole and we have learned that not only are such ventures
unprofitable, they are fraught with poor designs and a plethora of other
hassles. This whole thing reminds me of the Carter solar Gold Rush where,
sure, a bunch of systems were installed, but look at the damage it did to the
industry.
Respectfully,
Andrew Koyaanisqatsi
President
Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.
Since 1987,
Moving Portland and Beyond
to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.
503-238-4502
www.solarenergyoregon.com
"Better one's House too little one day
than too big all the Year after."
--- On Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Joel Davidson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new
installation methods
To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM
Guys,
You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of complaining about
roofers' bad work and competition, show the company owners photos of their
screw-ups and your quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then offer to do
their design and electrical installation (let them do the sales, roofing, and
grunt work).
Joel Davidson
----- Original Message -----
From: Warren Lauzon
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,new
installation methods
We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling around the
edges of solar installs lately. I have only seen a couple of installs
personally, and they were far from what I would call professional or reliable.
Not quite as bad as your example, but in one case they had used Romex to run
the wiring down to the inverter, and not in conduit.
From: Nick Soleil
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,new
installation methods
Hi wrenches:
Have you noticed that roofing companies have recently been
trying to sell solar? One company thought of something that I had never
considered. Listen to this neat story.
I was servicing a job today, where a roofing company recently
removed and re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree sloped roof. The funny
thing is that the roofer didn't want to penetrate his new roof, so he and the
customer decided to leave the panels sitting on the composition roof without
any attachments to the structure. They didn't think it was necessary!
Shortly afterward, the array slid down the roof, and a
MultiContact connector came unplugged. The customer noticed that his system
was not operating, and called us to the site.
Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell: 707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax: 707-769-9037
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