Hello Ray,
No, we don't have any usage data. With data I am quite sure we could prove the 
unlikelihood of PV power reaching the grid, but I know I could not honestly say 
it is impossible.
They will be meeting to discuss allowing our "dirty power" onto their grid in 
the coming months. I agree it would be of value to get them in touch with 
utilities that have PV experience, nice suggestion.
Thanks.

Karl Jaeger
Operations Manager
LightWave Solar Electric
www.lightwavesolar.com


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R Ray Walters
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:41 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] "Keep that there PV off my grid!"

FIrst, if they're intertied with the rest of the US grid, they already have 
some of that Pesky wind and solar power on their grid.
Seems to me that just some good old load data would show the PV output would 
never exceed the minimum daytime onsite usage.
I'm guessing you would want to look at weekend afternoons.....?
Do you have any long term monitoring data?

I remember these fights from the 90s too.
Quote: " to the pioneers go the arrows, to the settlers go the spoils"
Many on this list have taken an arrow or two for the cause; sorry this is still 
happening in 2011.
My best ammo was putting them in touch with other utilities that have 
experience with PV, and not get mad.
They're usually concerned with lineman safety, so their heart is in the right 
place, though not their brain.

Good Luck,

R. Walters
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Solar Engineer





On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Karl Jaeger wrote:


Thanks guys,
I had little doubt that the best source of industry knowledge would fail me.
Keep on keepin' on,

Karl Jaeger
Operations Manager
LightWave Solar Electric
www.lightwavesolar.com<http://www.lightwavesolar.com/>




From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Clearwater
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:00 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] "Keep that there PV off my grid!"

Hi Karl,

Whether it's worth pursuing or not, I believe their stance is in violation of 
PURPA.  I'm not an expert but I know others have won court cases over it.  It 
is left up to the State to administer however I do believe.   
DSire.org<http://DSire.org/> shows no net metering support in Alabama.  I 
imagine someone else on the List knows more than I.

But it sounds in this case like the technical fix is more prudent - Everything 
has it's season.

Best of Luck,

Jeff C.
Village Power Design





Greetings Esteemed Wrenches,

My company was recently tasked to engineer a PV project in Alabama. We sat down 
for a meeting with all of the local big-shots. They proceeded to let us know 
that we are not allowed to feed any excess PV power onto their grid, production 
cannot exceed demand. I am hoping that y'all might be able to steer me towards 
a contactor assembly or device that would detect reverse current flow, trigger 
the contactor, then open up the inverter AC output circuit. The service is 
3-phase, 208 volt. The maximum current we intend to introduce is 70 amps, 
continuous.

Appreciate your advice,

Karl Jaeger
Operations Manager
LightWave Solar Electric
www.lightwavesolar.com<http://www.lightwavesolar.com/>


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