William, You are right, I stand corrected.
Larry On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:20 AM, William Miller wrote: > Larry: > > I don't think he said, "don't talk to them." I think he said they are "still > in training." > > William > > > At 07:59 AM 10/9/2011, you wrote: >> Again, with all due respect, the don't talk to anyone with less than 50 >> installs is a bit extreme and quite frankly a little arrogant. >> >> >> Larry Liesner >> Wirewiz >> 31 Lincoln St >> Westport, CT 06880 >> Phone: 203-644-2404 >> [email protected] >> www.wire-wiz.com >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:31 PM, North Texas Renewable Energy Inc wrote: >> >>> With all due respect to your experience in California Joel, total >>> installations is not a very accurate indicator of ability in todays PV >>> industry imho. A good start is how many years have you been in the >>> business, really in the business. This does not include the PV pump in your >>> koi pond but real verifiable, green-tagged installs. 20+ year electrical >>> contractors with a half-dozen installs don't count either. NABCEP >>> certification is another excellent filter but several ECs around here >>> simply hired a NABCEP cert to be able to fly the logo. >>> >>> I have sat through Bill Brooks classes almost as many times as John Wiles >>> classes. Just spent 8 hours in a James Stallcup Sr. class in Austin Friday >>> and had lunch Saturday with the 25 year Exec. Dir. of treia.org. My www >>> site doesn't emphasize the number of installs but it does show a list of >>> training classes, and conferences etc I have attended over the last 18 >>> years. >>> >>> I won't go into the politics of why Texas is a decade behind the leading >>> edge of PV in the US but I probably don't have to when you consider our >>> political situation here. And our working with TREIA at the state capitol >>> for the last 6 years "greasing the skids" in favor of pro-RE legislation >>> gives a whole new perspective on those politics. There's a reason SEIA & >>> SEPA brought SPI to Dallas. >>> >>> And since you mentioned it, I don't know how many Wrenches will be at SPI >>> in Dallas but be sure to check out the pulled pork sandwiches and >>> "first-drink-free" meetup at Poor Davids Pub on the 19th from 6-9. It's >>> sponsored by the Texas Solar Energy Society and it's just a couple of >>> blocks from the big show. We'll be looking for NABCEP shirts. >>> >>> Jim Duncan >>> North Texas Renewable Energy >>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV >>> Installer No.031310-57 >>> TECL 27398 >>> [email protected] >>> 817.917.0527 >>> www.ntrei.com >>> >>> >>> Dear Jesse, >>> >>> 1. Go to the Dallas solar exhibition and spend a lot of time on the floor >>> talking to real engineers with field experience (not salespeople). First >>> question to ask is "How many PV systems have you installed?" Anyone with >>> less than 50 systems under their belt is either reading from the book or >>> still in training. >>> >>> 2. Attend a Bill Brooks training session. Bill has strong opinions that some >>> wrenches disagree with but has seen more PV installations than over 99% of >>> the people on Earth and has spend decades thinking about what is good and >>> bad PV. >>> >>> 3. Meet with and walk the exhibit floor with and talk shop day and night >>> with as many wrenches as you can (at least 3 a day). >>> >>> 4. Go to the exhibits all the time they are open and keep your ears open. >>> Wrenching is parts and the people who put parts together. Only go to >>> sessions and workshops when the exhibits are closed. >>> >>> 5. Don't become a true believer in any one part or one way to put parts >>> together. There are many good and bad parts and techniques. The quest is >>> finding something better. >>> >>> Have fun. >>> Joel Davidson >>> "Not all change is for the better, but nothing gets better without change." > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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