We too are suddenly faced with a requirement for an engineer's stamp on foundation drawings for pole-top racks. This new requirement just rankles my craw (an _expression_ from our great-grandfathers' time...). This is even though DP&W (our preferred pole top rack manufacturer) supplies drawings of pole length and foundation, specific to the slope, soil type, array size and wind load, upon request. These aren't good enough.

I still prefer to install seasonally-adjustable racks for off-grid, which the array in your link, while beautifully executed as usual, decidedly isn't.

But I'm starting to reconsider. Who has read Christopher Freitas' excellent article on large battery banks in the preceding SolarPro? One of his latter points in the article, which I understand was highly edited, was that with battery prices rising and PV prices falling, our off-grid designs ought to move toward substantially larger arrays and smaller battery banks. I believe he's right, and it will be a fundamental shift in our design approach. The same may prove relevant to racking as well: larger fixed arrays, with less emphasis on seasonal adjustment when other factors work against it.
Allan

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On 3/24/2012 11:29 AM, William Miller wrote:
Daryl:

Thanks for the photos and description of the mounts you are installing.  We have installed many of the DPW ground mount systems in similar configurations. http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/Portfolio/ground-mount/engineered_ground_mount.jpg

We are realizing two things:

1. Concrete footings of any type are expensive.  The cost of excavation, forming and concrete really adds up.

2. For off-grid, when the module tilt angle increases to 45 degrees, the foundations need to be substantial.  During one install we had our heavy PV trailer blow over due to high winds.  We decided to have the foundations reviewed by an engineer and when we received the results, we had to go back and double our piers and strut.  We had bid the job so the updates came out of our pocket.  See: http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/Portfolio/ground-mount/full_size_photos/engineered_ground_mount.JPG

We are now required by the AHJ to provide a wet stamp from a structural engineer for every PV structure over 6 feet in height.  This means every off-grid.  We know the engineers will require massive foundations which will cost a lot.  I am looking for a cheaper way to install these racks.  I have not found it yet.

Thanks for your input.

William Miller


At 04:37 AM 3/24/2012, you wrote:
William,
   I'm attaching a picture of a system we just completed in Eleuthera
using DPW racks on concrete pilings. We tied the pilings and rebar
reinforcement into the limestone bedrock with rebar down 16 inches and
used 12 inch sono tubes as forms.
   We do a lot of ground mounting since our summer work is mostly in New
England and snow removal is always a factor. I have two pole mounted
arrays at my home, but it is the most expensive option, and therefore
do a lot of this type of ground mounting. We also have an economical
"cribworks" type structure made from solid railroad ties and weighing
in at about 2800 lbs each that we will sometimes offer to customers in
off grid situations.

Daryl

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