Is this the case with gel batteries as well?

Jonathan Hill, senior system engineer and founder
Sierra Solar Systems


On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Vince McClellan wrote:

> On 8/2/2012 1:06 PM, Drake wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Wrenches,
>> 
>> Thanks for your help with this question.
>> 
>> I've had a breakthrough on the design of this system.  I talked with Tom at 
>> Midnight Solar, and he explained that Concord batteries can be charged at C 
>> X 5 if necessary, i.e., 5 X AH capacity of the bank.  The batteries like a 
>> fast charge.  They are a bit spendy, but will simplify the overall system 
>> design. 
>> 
>> From the Manual: 
>> "The charging current during the Bulk stage should be set as high as 
>> practical; higher current mean faster recharge time.  For repetitive deep 
>> cycling, chargers should have an output current of at least 0.2C (20 Amps 
>> for a 100 Ah battery).  If the output current is less than this value, the 
>> cycle life of the battery may be negatively affected.  Due to low impedance 
>> design, Sun Xtender batteries can tolerate in-rush current levels as high as 
>> 5C (500 A for a 100 Ah battery). " 
>> 
>> It is imperative to keep the system voltage at the required set point.  The 
>> CC regulation will prevent the batteries from being       harmed, as the 
>> voltage will rise quickly.
>> 
>> Drake 
>> 
>> Drake Chamberlin
>> Athens Electric LLC
>> OH License 44810
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>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
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>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Just a word of caution on the AGM batteries. AGM's do have some 
> vulnerabilities compared to deep cycle wet filled batteries. We had a bank of 
> 20, 8A8D  running a Buddhist Retreat compound and were unable to convince our 
> clients that there were limitations to the amount of power that they could 
> run at one time. They managed to overheat and destroy the whole bank of 
> batteries we think by using too much power during a retreat camp. People had 
> brought there own appliances to use at the camp and we still don't know what 
> the total load was on the 4, Outback VFX 3648 inverters. I'm guessing it was 
> up there close to the 14.4 kW limit of the Outback inverters. We also 
> petitioned our client for a larger battery bank but they didn't think they 
> would ever need that much power. 
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