Hi Allan

I have a client who did indeed install Tigo
with a outback CC and it all works well

I don't recommend it for the boat. Too much to
go wrong. 

Jay
Peltz power

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On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Allan Sindelar <al...@positiveenergysolar.com> 
wrote:

> Dan,
> I checked out the Tigo website, and found nothing there to suggest that these 
> were intended for off grid battery charging applications. A round-the-world 
> sailboat is off grid. Are you suggesting that these will work in battery 
> charging applications? If so,this is news. Do you have any more info you can 
> share with us about this?
> Thanks, Allan
> 
> Allan Sindelar
> al...@positiveenergysolar.com
> NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
> Founder and Chief Technology Officer
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> 3209 Richards Lane (note new address)
> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
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> 
> On 10/11/2012 2:58 PM, d...@foxfire-energy.com wrote:
>> Check out Tigo Optimizers:
>> 
>> http://www.tigoenergy.com/ 
>> 
>> db
>> Dan Brown
>> Foxfire Energy Corp.
>> Renewable Energy Systems
>> (802)-483-2564
>> www.Foxfire-Energy.com
>> NABCEP #092907-44
>> 
>> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan 
>> Sindelar
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:04 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Charge control question
>>  
>> Wrenches,
>> I'm posting this for Carl Bickford, prof emeritus of the renewable energy 
>> training program at San Juan College in Farmington, New Mexico. I'll forward 
>> your responses to him.
>> I have a very interesting and talented friend who is rebuilding a blue-water 
>> sailboat for a round-the-world trip. He is well versed in solar and is 
>> trying to use a relatively large array to charge a big battery bank that 
>> will be used for propulsion as well as general electrical. The propulsion 
>> system will be backed up with a propane generator he is building himself out 
>> of a Toyota truck engine.
>> As you can imagine, there is no place on a sailboat where shading isn’t a 
>> problem. He and I were wondering if there were products out there that could 
>> MPPT either individual modules, or small groups of them for 12 V battery 
>> charging. I have seen such things for the inputs of grid-tied inverters, but 
>> nothing yet for off-grid. The other choice is to go with many small MPPT 
>> charge controllers like the ones from Solar Converters.
>> Any advice you can offer?
>> Take care,
>> Carl 
>> 
>> Carl Bickford
>> Professor of Engineering and Renewable Energy
>> San Juan College
>> 4601 College Blvd.
>> Farmington, NM 87402
>> 505-566-3503
>> bickfo...@sanjuancollege.edu
>>  
>> I offered the suggestion below. Certainly open to other and better ideas.
>> Allan
>> 
>> I have not encountered this situation, so I have no advice from experience. 
>> At 12V, it's hardly an issue as it is with high voltage parallel strings, 
>> where a few shaded cells can cause a whole string to drop out of the 
>> inverter's MPPT. At most, a shaded cell weakens the output of that module. 
>> And since it's charging batteries, there's a greater amount of head room.
>> 
>> I would suggest looking into Blue Sky Energy's "i" series - smaller MPPT 
>> controllers that can be networked. We seldom use them, as our residential 
>> applications are different. But you could put a controller on a group of 
>> modules and network several together. One advantage, I think (you'd want to 
>> check this) is that Blue Sky's MPPT algorithm is analog, unlike Outback and 
>> others: on the old Solar Boost series, the MPPT boost was set with a trim 
>> pot to a particular voltage above battery voltage; the target is to set it 
>> to where the boost was greatest. You could set this boost slightly lower 
>> than peak, and output just a little below MPP. That way the overall output 
>> would be minimally reduced, and a modest amount of shading would not cause 
>> the shaded module to drop below collective MPP as readily.
>> 
>> Allan Sindelar
>> al...@positiveenergysolar.com
>> NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
>> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
>> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
>> Founder and Chief Technology Officer
>> Positive Energy, Inc.
>> 3209 Richards Lane (note new address)
>> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
>> 505 424-1112
>> www.positiveenergysolar.com
>>  
>>  
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