this is probably a hair brained question, but has anyone ever tried paralleling 
the connections within the series strings?
yes, more cables, but might this reduce the multiple parallel string 
unbalancing issues?
 
todd
 
 
 
On Monday, April 29, 2013 3:53pm, "Wayne Irwin" <[email protected]> 
said:



The system is pre-existing. This is a battery replacement only. I agree that 
fewer strings are best. The 8CS25 were the most AH for the money. However, the 
12 - 8CS 25's is a big step up from the 32 - S530's (8 strings! and 96 holes to 
fill).
FYI. As a case study, the S530 bank was 6yrs old before showing signs of 
weakening and could probably keep going at least until warranty exp. Jan. 2014. 
Cable's and terminals were pretty clean, watered and eq'd regularly.

The 5 - CC design objective was to maximize efficiency and provide redundancy. 
System seems to have worked flawlessly for past 6 yrs. .
Supports a 3500sq' Res/Farm with 1hp well pump for irrigation, AC throughout 
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From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:37:50 -0700
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 24V Rolls Charging Parameters?

Wayne,
In the first place, 4 parallel strings of anything is a very bad idea. Micro 
resistances in cabling and connections plus eddy currents and the like will, 
over time, inherently unbalance the pack. Doing frequent EQ charges will be 
required but will not overcome the inherently bad design of too many parallel 
strings. If you want to stay with Surrette, one string of 24  2-YS-31PS will 
give you about the same capacity in one tasty, electrically happy string. Lots 
more money, I get that, but that would be the ideal situation. As a fallback, 
do yourself a favor and spec out 12 of the 4KS-21PS so that you have just two 
parallel strings. Should even be a little less dough.
Jamie Surette ([mailto:[email protected]] [email protected]) is  usually 
pretty good at returning emails and calls. His would be, without doubt, your 
best opinion as to a proper charge regime for his batts.
Good Luck. If you go with four strings, you'll need it.
bob-O



On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Irwin wrote:

Hello Wrenches,

Please provide your opinions on the proper charging voltages (e.g. bulk, float, 
eq,), and recommended durations.

The bank consists of 12 - Rolls 8CS25P (820AH @ 20hr rate) (4 strings of 3). 
Design based partly on budget limitations.

FYI. The system is off grid and consists of an 8KW array, 2 - OB VFX 3524 
Inv's. and 5 - OB MX80 CC's.

I have general parameters programmed based on AH's but would like to have 
additional opinions/suggestions to compare and/or see if there is something 
that I have missed.

I have not yet received any feedback from Rolls tech support ..... James?

Thanks in advance for your help,

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