Any idea what the two silver cylinders in the upper left of the photo are (sitting on top of the battery box)?
> Hi Bill; > > The 2014 NEC (coupled with rampant misinterpretation) is accelerating > an ever widening gap between those that have "code" and those that can't > afford it. On one side, US installers are forced to keep up with all > the code changes, AHJs that don't understand solar, and sky rocketing > insurance rates, all for the privilege to compete with the likes of > Solar City, only to reap the ever shrinking profit margins in the end. > On the opposite front of solar are an ever increasing army of Do It > Yourself Idiots (DIYI ?!) that are hooking inverters directly to large > battery banks with car jumper cables, or plugging GT inverters into the > grid with male/ male extension cords. (there really should be a law > against that) > So, apparently I work in the Purgatory of Solar, fixing imminently > dangerous situations, and not really caring so much lately about the > nuances of interpretation of the 2014 code. > For my money, 2008 code mixed with some 2011 as needed, seemed to be > plenty safe without throwing the baby out with the bath water. > > I'm glad to see you bring some sanity back to the playing field. I > always appreciate your comments. > > How about this Flying Cable, Dual Radian Install to stoke your code > interpreting abilities: > > The more you look, the wronger it gets.....the buss block in the air on > the right carries several KW of PV array current..... > mmm, mmm, what's cookin' > > R.Ray Walters > > PS, I already had the project in Mexico, before this thread came out...... > > On 4/28/2014 5:57 PM, Bill Brooks wrote: >> >> Read 690.9(D) and 690.34. Not sure where this "hysteria---run for the >> border" sentiment is coming from. >> >> *690.9(D) Photovoltaic Source and Output Circuits. *Listed PV >> >> overcurrent devices shall be required to provide overcurrent >> >> protection in PV source and output circuits. The overcurrent >> >> devices shall be accessible but shall not be required to >> >> be readily accessible. >> >> *690.34 Access to Boxes. *Junction, pull, and outlet boxes >> >> located behind modules or panels shall be so installed that >> >> the wiring contained in them can be rendered accessible >> >> directly or by displacement of a module(s) or panel(s) secured >> >> by removable fasteners and connected by a flexible >> >> wiring system. >> >> This is not a change. Please help me understand the concern. >> >> Bill Brooks. >> >> *From:*[email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray >> Walters >> *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 2:23 PM >> *To:* RE-wrenches >> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] (no subject) >> >> Interesting so does "require a tool" include taking a screw off the >> cover plate of the combiner box, too? >> What a game changer. I'm going to Mexico for my next project; I'll >> actually enjoy even more being the sole AHJ on the project. >> >> R.Ray Walters >> CTO, Solarray, Inc >> Nabcep Certified PV Installer, >> Licensed Master Electrician >> Solar Design Engineer >> 303 505-8760 >> >> On 4/28/2014 2:52 PM, Michael Morningstar wrote: >> >> Readily accessible is now defined in the 2014 NEC. Installing >> OCPD's underneath a module is a major faux paux, and I can't >> imagine any AHJ thinking otherwise. Having to remove a module in >> order to reset a breaker, what a drag. >> >> "Capable of being reached quickly for operation, renewal or >> inspection without requiring those concerned to use a tool, to >> climb over, remove obstacle or other." >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:29 AM, William Miller >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> You call it a solar panel, I call it a glass j-box cover plate. >> >> William >> >> Miller Solar >> >> >> On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Jason Szumlanski >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> If that is the interpretation, >> I don't see how the breakers are "readily accessible" in a >> SolaDeck >> mounted anywhere, regardless of whether it is under a >> module. It >> requires removal of four screws (using a tool) to access >> the breakers >> inside the enclosure. It's all up to the AHJ. It has not >> been an issue >> locally here. I can see how other jurisdictions may not >> concur. >> > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: [email protected] Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
