Hugh,
We've done a similar scenario around here the last several years, even
charging an electric car. However, there is certainly more to the story than
an added inverter, eh? I've also added PVs (lots for the car) from the days of
heavy propane use. And I know that some of the incentive to reduce the use of
propane and add electric appliances is that occasionally we'll have a great
hydro year ("Omigosh the batteries are boiling, there's 4KW coming in from PV
and 600 watts at the hydro...buy that convection oven...do some electric space
heating!!)
For us the dance has been to have both available so, rather than run
the genny, use a little propane to cook or whatever.
A halogen oven? uh, oh I guess I'm still living under a rock. Help me
with that one.
Bill
Taylorsville
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Piggott
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] New washers and dishwashers on inverter power -any
problems?
We have a pair of VFX inverters and we run an LG dishwasher which is great -
quiet direct drive - uses about 0.7kWh for a wash (and about 0.2 per 24 hours
sitting there looking inert :-() It worked fine before the second inverter was
added actually. As did the induction hob and the halogen oven. Both great
ways to save on propane gas consumption. In fact we hardly use gas any more.
We just bought a 3kW electric oven, and so long as the wind is blowing that's
available too.
It seems to me that using propane to avoid using renewable energy is backward
thinking these days. LPG is the last resort for us.
Hugh
On 4 Dec 2014, at 01:14, Dave wrote:
I'm looking at Bosch # 16083 ($ 765) dishwasher - any problems running this
on OutBack inverter power?
and also a Samsung, or LG, front load clothes washer. I'm a little gun shy
with these fancy machines because of all of their electronic controls as I have
memories of the Maytag Neptunes several years ago being a horror show on
inverter power.
Thanks for your input,
Dave Palumbo
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dan Fink
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:21 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Appliances for off-grid home
Hi Dave;
The last couple times I speced dishwashers for off-grid clients, I ended up
doing it right from EnergyGuide ratings. No longer have to order expensive
stuff from Europe or Australia, some USA-made models are right in there.
Battery spark ignition propane ranges are still very limited --
Premier/Peerless is OK, so is Summit Appliance, but with Summit customer
service and spare part availability are dismal. Unique OffGrid (Canada) looks
really nice, but I'm waiting for someone else to try them before I recommend
them. I may guinea pig myself on Unique. Everything else I've tried has been
just plain awful....oven thermostats that need replacing every couple years,
leaky valves, etc. They are cheap and intended for cheap apartment landlords
who buy them 30 at a time.
I require sealed burners, and a solid burner great is awesome.
If your client doesn't need an oven, there are plenty of fancy expensive
drop-in cooktops at the high-end foodie kitchen stores, but all the wall ovens
I've found there have a glowbar.
Finally, there's marine galley stoves and ovens. But very pricey, and tiny
ovens. You're paying for gimballed mounts that you only need on a boat.
Best of luck.....
Dan Fink
Buckville Energy
IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
~ PV Installation Professional
~ Small Wind Installer
NABCEP / IREC / ISPQ Accredited Continuing Education Providers™
970.672.4342
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm looking for a recommendation for an efficient dishwasher to be powered
by an OutBack inverter.
Also, I need to buy another LP gas range for off-grid use. I have been
using the Peerless-Premier line because they could be ordered without the
electric glow bar in the oven. Are they any more choices these days in LP
ranges?
Thanks,
Dave
David Palumbo
Independent Power LLC
462 Solar Way Drive
Hyde Park, VT 05655
802-888-7194
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