How do you get around the code requirement for the use of PV wire with a TL 
inverter on the existing array?

Sincerely,
Glenn Burt
Sent from my 'smart' phone so please excuse grammar and typos.

-----Original Message-----
From: "jerrysgarage01" <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com>
Sent: ā€Ž7/ā€Ž24/ā€Ž2015 12:57
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

SMA used to to do repairs but last I heard they no longer have replacement 
parts. I have used the new SMA TL-22 because of the low voltage dc input. If 
you added some additional modules to the "B" input it might qualify for the tax 
credit (I did say might)
Good luck
Jerry


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Jason Szumlanski 
<ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> </div><div>Date:07/24/2015  4:25 AM  
(GMT-10:00) </div><div>To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> 
</div><div>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power </div><div>
</div>Someone contacted me off list and said this company does out of warranty 
SMA repairs:

http://www.shop.solarcowboyzoutlet.com/Inverter-Repair-Service-Inverter-Repair-Service.htm

Looks like there is a risk in how big the repair is, but apparently they are 
willing to talk about the diagnostics before you send it in, and fix minor 
problems for a flat rate.

One bad part about these small systems is that labor to repair or replace 
failed units can easily turn into a cost equivalent to years of energy 
production, not to mention the hardware cost itself... I've only sold a few 
"tiny" systems over the years, and never really considered this. It makes much 
more financial sense for an owner to replace a failed 5kW inverter when the 
labor is basically the same as a 2kW.

Jason Szumlanski


On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Sky Sims <s...@ecologicalsystems.biz> wrote:
This is a known issue. I've come across a bunch of their inverters that have 
had this problem. In addition to seeing this issue on their 1800's I've seen it 
happen on their 2500's as well. Shows a solid green light but isn't putting out 
power. 
The first time I came across this issue they had a refurbishment program, where 
they would rebuild the inverter and send it back with a one year warranty for 
under $400. The refurbishment program was a great program that I hope they 
bring back someday.
The last few times I contacted SMA about one of these defective inverters, they 
said the product was not under warranty and they no longer supported it. Only 
option they gave was to buy a new unit. 

Sky Sims
Ecological Systems


On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Jason Szumlanski 
<ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

I am looking at a 1800u from 2004 that has a green light and in mpp mode,  but 
Pac is zero. Grid and DC voltage are good.  No other indication of problems. I 
saw Pac tick up to 2W a couple of times,  but that's it. It's just not 
delivering AC power.

Any thoughts?

Sadly, it doesn't make much financial sense for the owner to replace it with a 
current model, as the replacement cost would take almost 10 years to recover 
with the small BIPV array connected to it. I'm hoping for a field repair option.

Jason Szumlanski

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