Wrenches
Mixing of batteries of the same sise and brand, older vs new maybe
bepending on age and or abuse. Mixing of type or size of batteries, sorry i
dont really care if the manufacture says its ok, Its not for me. I have
tested batteries and BMS and even with everything right there can be an
issue with them so why sdd to the possible issues.
Jerry
On Nov 20, 2015 2:07 PM, "Starlight Solar Power Systems" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Allan,
>
> Yep…At first my thought was with the batteries in parallel, they
> contribute equally to the load. Upon further thinking, this could not be
> true because the voltage must stay the same across all terminals during
> discharge. That can only mean the larger battery provides more AH than the
> smaller at any depth of discharge. It must also be true that DoD percentage
> of each battery is identical at any point in cycle.
>
> On charging, the reverse must be true again because of terminal voltage.
> It’s obvious that this should never be done in series strings. So….why have
> I always believed, preached and insisted “never mix battery sizes in the
> same bank”?
>
> Battery wrenches, has anyone ever done or seen this done? (Allan, I’m not
> even going to ask about your customer with five 6 volt batteries in a 24
> volt bank)
>
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar Power Systems
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Allan Sindelar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Larry,
> Nobody has responded to your question: "How can this possibly be OK for
> the 75AH battery? And why would a battery manufacturer say this?" and like
> you, it goes against everything that I have assumed. But to answer that
> first question: when I look at, I wonder why it wouldn't work. With AGM
> batteries you can tolerate both high and low charging C/ rates and long
> absorption times. So it makes sense that as long as the voltage remains the
> limiting factor and the array is large enough to allow routine long
> absorption periods, it oughtta work just fine.
>
> Your thoughts?
> Allan
>
> *Allan Sindelar*
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>
> On 11/18/2015 5:09 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote:
>
> Just when I thought I was becoming a battery guru, this came up: A customer 
> asked me if he could purchase two different size 12 volt Lifeline (Concorde) 
> AGM batteries and connect them in parallel. Of course I told him this was a 
> bad idea and all his parallel batteries should be same make, age, size. A few 
> days later he called me back and said he talked to Lifeline battery and they 
> told him it was fine to mix any size of their batteries together. Knowing 
> that people sometimes hear wrong, I called Lifeline to inquire. The answer, 
> "yes, you can mix any of our batteries in parallel. We have tested that and 
> Concorde tested it and it’s no problem”.
>
> Stunned, I asked him if this was in writing anywhere and he said no but I 
> could test this myself. So battery wrenches, what will happen if I have an 8D 
> at 255AH paralleled to a group 24 at 75 AH and discharge this to 80% DoD? How 
> can this possibly be OK for the 75AH battery? And why would a battery 
> manufacturer say this?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
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