Jay,

VRLAs tend to have a self-discharge rate, depending on the chemistry as low as 
2%, but as high as 5%...

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jay
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:23 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Winter Battery Maintenance

Hi Steve
Thanks

I would only add that those self discharge rates are for good condition 
batteries.
As they age, it increases.

Question.
How does the self discharge rates vary between, VRLA and flooded, or do they?

Thx
Jay
Peltz power

On May 3, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Steve Higgins 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good Morning Wrenches!

I’ve been watching this topic over the past few days and just wanted to put in 
my .02cents..

A Flooded Lead Acid Battery that is at 1.265 or greater SG will not freeze 
until it’s exposed to temperatures lesser than -90F or -60C.

The same battery at only 1.220 SG will freeze at +20F or -6C.

A flooded Lead Acid battery regardless of manufacture will self-discharge at 
about 8-10% per months when not under charge.

For me, in most cases that gives you 3-4 months at best to disconnect a system. 
  If you are decommissioning the system in Nov, recommissioning in Feb/March 
you should be okay.

The problem is too many customers shut down in Oct, and don’t come back until 
March/April… if you get a late season cold snap this is when you have problems 
with freezing batteries.

To prevent this there are a few schools of thought…

One… You shut down completely and remove the batteries…  This is kind of a pain 
and most customer really don’t want to lug batteries to and from their cabins.  
 They may do this for a season or two, but eventually the lazy bug hits…

Two… You  shut down everything but the controller.   You need to have the array 
installed so that it’s higher than the snow will be, and it’s suggested that 
you angle the panels 75+ degrees to keep snow from accumulating on the panels.  
 In northern Canada/Alaska I’ve seen panels installed at 90degree to keep snow 
from accumulating…  With this you need to disable Auto EQ, and I’d also suggest 
insulating the battery bank, and moving them together so they will help keep 
each other warm.   When you return, you’ll have to remove the insulation, and 
separate the batteries again so you can get summer time airflow between the 
batteries.

Generally leaving the controller on works well 99% of the time… unfortunately 
the only 100% fool proof way to not have frozen batteries is to pull them, or 
go with a AGM battery, although we did have a customer last season where the 
AGM batteries froze in an installation in Northern Canada.  This is what 
happens when you install them outside on the porch!






Steve Higgins
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