You guys should really cut one of those swelled up ones and share the photos with us :)
Benn Kilburn SkyFire Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 > On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> wrote: > > The 190's had component issues which case them to balloon up > Jerry > > >> On Sep 14, 2016 10:11 AM, "William Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Colleagues: >> >> We have M190s fail in beach installations. Some have had the cases swell up >> like there is a tumor inside. I haven't cut them open to see what's inside >> because they need to go back to manufacturer. >> >> William >> >>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Mike >>> I also work near the ocean, its all around me here in Hawaii, we have had >>> the 190's fail but not to environmental conditions and very few issues with >>> 215's. Do you have any pics of the damage as l have seen very little salt >>> issues. >>> Jerry >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2016 9:11 PM, "Mike Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I've had so many Enphase failures it's kind of ridiculous. We install most >>>> of our systems near the ocean so corrosion has played a big factor. The >>>> newer micro inverters are holding a much better, 215 and 250's. I have >>>> learned over the years that SMA makes the best product, and I mostly stick >>>> with them. Sometimes micro inverters are requested or really fit the >>>> installation particulars, so I still use them occasionally. I haven't yet >>>> tried solar edge. >>>> >>>> Michael D Nelson >>>> MD Electric & Solar, Inc. >>>> 707-684-0064 mobile >>>> 707-884-1862 office >>>> www.mdelectricsolar.com >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Rebecca Lundberg >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Esteemed wrenches, >>>>> >>>>> I'm hoping the experience of this list can help give us a broader >>>>> perspective on the current market performance and as a secondary concern, >>>>> tech support (or lack thereof), from solar micro-inverter manufacturers. >>>>> >>>>> Are others having much trouble with micro-inverters? We have had repeated >>>>> issues with several different brands on our systems in Minnesota: >>>>> - 8 Enphase systems with mostly M210 and M215, have had to repeatedly go >>>>> back to sites to replace units. The new replacement ones seem to be >>>>> lasting better (we sure hope they will). Enphase is harder to contact in >>>>> recent years, but we're happy they at least provide a predictable >>>>> stipend. Are you also having to replace a lot of this brand of product? >>>>> Are the newer models holding up better? >>>>> >>>>> - We gave a new inverter busbar design concept a try (tenKsolar) and >>>>> though the micro-inverters were supposed to take turns and be >>>>> 'redundant,' the ones with APS micro-inverters needed 100% replacement >>>>> and the ones with Lead Solar micro-inverters have a problem where if one >>>>> of them fails it appears to send a signal to all the rest so the entire >>>>> busbar stops working -- in action it's far from redundant. When we >>>>> purchased the tenKsolar Rais Inverter Bus (RIB) the spec sheet didn't >>>>> tell us what brand of micro-inverter they would use as the OEM so we >>>>> couldn't research the viability of the product or company or warranty >>>>> stipend (or lack there-of) of the micro-inverter OEM. We assumed it was a >>>>> tenKsolar product and they would provide warranty replacements, service, >>>>> and tech support, but our experience has been far from that. When >>>>> something goes wrong tenK says 'it's not our product that's failing' >>>>> because they don't actually manufacture the micro-inverter (it's an OEM), >>>>> the micro-inverter company says 'it's not our product' because tenKsolar >>>>> has it wired and used in a very unique manner specific to the tenKsolar >>>>> product, so both manufacturers are backing away from any responsibility. >>>>> A 25-year warranty on the inverter busbar is a great concept but if/when >>>>> something goes wrong there is no support and no apparent warranty at all >>>>> except maybe they will send us a new component that needs several hours >>>>> of work to re-install, so either the installer does the warranty work for >>>>> free or the customer has a very unexpected expense to get their system >>>>> back up and running a year or two after it was installed; we think both >>>>> scenarios are unacceptable (from our installer perspective :-), do any of >>>>> you have experiences you can share here? >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if the climate in MN makes us an anomaly. Based on these >>>>> micro-inverter experiences we feel like the Rapid Shutdown rule has >>>>> forced us to use dc optimizers on residential applications whether we >>>>> want to or not -- is that pretty much what all of you are doing too? >>>>> >>>>> Rebecca Lundberg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>> >>>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>> >>>>> List-Archive: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >>>>> >>>>> List rules & etiquette: >>>>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>>>> >>>>> Check out or update participant bios: >>>>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>> >>>> List Address: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>> >>>> List-Archive: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >>>> >>>> List rules & etiquette: >>>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>>> >>>> Check out or update participant bios: >>>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List-Archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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