Hi Dave,

I looked at them a couple years ago and tried to find out who makes their 
cells, no luck. Compare with LiFeBlue, for $100 more retail you get a Bluetooth 
battery monitor in each battery that communicates with the internal BMS and a 
10 year Warrantee. I would like to stress how important the Bluetooth is. If 
Battle Born or any other in similar battery shuts off, how will you or your 
customer know why this happened or what to do about it? LiFeBlue will display 
the fault on the System Info page of the App. (see attachment)

LiFeBlue has dealer pricing, not sure if Battle Born does. 

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems



On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Glenn Burt <glenn.b...@glbcc.com> wrote:

Has anyone experience with Battle Born lithium batteries? Their price point is 
better than others we have looked at.
From: Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <mailto:offgridso...@sti.net>
Sent: ‎8/‎7/‎2017 14:39
To: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SimpliPhi Power PHI3.4 Smart -Tech Batteries and 
LifeBlue

Chris,

I am impressed with a first look at Lifeblue. They seem much easier to
integrate that Simpliphi with their larger capacity and Soc data out
wireless!!!  To me this is a huge feature for my clients and myself.

On first look I will say I have been testing the LG RESU10 since last
year. To me they are the benchmark for a couple reasons. LG Chem is a 20
billion dollar company with (unlike Tesla) over 20 years of profitability.
So I feel they will be there.

The second is how the BMS calculates and continuously calibrates the Soc.
This is very different to me than any battery monitor I have used. This
becomes apparent when one goes for a week or more without getting to 100%
Soc. The LG is extremely accurate. The protection on the LG is as good as
I can think of with contactor, overcurrent protection from both a
breaker/Disco and a class T fuse. I have tested them in a DC input short
(failed DC Inverter input). It works!

So, at this time I would say the Lifeblue needs to prove itself and I
would be happy to keep an eye on all the early adapters :)

Schneider did release the Bridge for LG Chem BTW, and Outback has delayed
the Skybox until 2018 which is being tested with LG Chem also.

Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
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> Have you tried them, are they reliable?
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems <
> la...@starlightsolar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jay and Dave,
>>
>> LiFeBlue battery has a wireless Bluetooth monitor that is connected to
>> the
>> BMS in each battery. SoC, current, cycle life, voltage, health, battery
>> faults and more is provided on the free IOS or Android App. Up to 62kWh
>> at
>> 48 volts available today.
>>
>> http://www.lifebluebattery.com/the-smartest-lithium-battery/index.html
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes true. I haven't found the perfect off grid lithium battery.  But
>> until
>> the prices come down, I become a better sales person, or I get rich
>> clients
>> not a big problem for me.
>> You will have to use external % meter, but been doing that for long
>> time.
>>
>> Sure good comm would be better, however one of the questions no one
>> seems
>> to have an answer for is energy consumption for the BMS, any BMS.
>>
>> On a different note, how does the LG or PW deal with dark start?  If it
>> shuts down due to low voltage, how do you get it started again?
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
>> offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jay,
>> >
>> > Without battery BMS data for Soc how does one know? I assume you need
>> an
>> > external shunt and an energy monitor? Any guidance from the
>> manufacturer?
>> >
>> > One of the nice things about the LG resu 10 is the data is all there
>> and
>> > it stays very accurate even on a week with never finishing charge to
>> > 100%.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> > "we go where powerlines don't"
>> > http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> > e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
>> > text 209 813 0060
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