Jay,

I’ve been using the Sunseeker app in conjunction with the Solar Pathfinder. The 
former is useful for when the Pathfinder isn’t handy. 

rick brown
SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC
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Check, Virginia 24072
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> On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> HI Ken;
> 
> Don't tell me, but you probably still have a copy of The Passive Solar Energy 
> Book on your shelves, with those nice old solar siting charts?  
> Those of us lucky enough to have been in the business for decades have been 
> confronted with Ken's little considered fact: Trees grow.  I went back to a 
> site I had done in '99, and was amazed I was so stupid to put the array in 
> the shade of a 30 ft tree.  That must have been before I got my Solar 
> Pathfinder, I thought......Then I started looking at the tree and my old pics 
> of the site, and realized that tree was only about 5 ft tall, when I did the 
> system.  As Homer Simpson says:  " Douhh! "
> 
> On the flip side, beetle kill in the Southwest has had the opposite effect; 
> arrays that were on tall poles to get above the tree shading are now rather 
> ridiculous looking sitting out by themselves in the now large clearing.
> 
> While I certainly didn't go into solar to cut down trees,  sometimes it needs 
> to happen along with clearing trees close to the house for fire danger.  I do 
> my best to get folks to move the array to save the big beauties. (yea, I'm a 
> tree hugger at heart)  Higher voltage arrays courtesy of MPPT controllers 
> help in that regard, too.
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
>> On 9/3/18 12:26 PM, Ken Schaal wrote:
>> I started siting SHW systems in 1976.
>> Studied sun angle chart persistently, until i had a good sense of how the 
>> sun moves for our area in central Virginia.
>>  We also have lots of trees...fast growing,  tall trees !
>> So while  precision shading analysis is a valuable tool, the info is static.
>> Our sites are rarely static !
>> The biggest issue here is getting clients to manage their trees.
>> I learned this even before I  started installing SHW, when I first built a 
>> sunroom on the south side of my house in 1974.
>>  Many trees have grown, and then become firewood, since then.
>> When the pv system was installed, in 2008, several more trees on the east 
>> and west were removed.Fortunately there were now taller trees to the NE and 
>> NW to shade house  in summer. Exterior movable shading, sunscreen,  on south 
>> windows, combined with interior insulating shades, allowing the collectors 
>> and pv panels to be in full sun, while the house is protected from unwanted 
>> spring, summer, fall solar gain.
>> Being a full service solar contractor requires a long term perspective in 
>> our climate. And most importantly,  clients willing and able to manage their 
>> trees !
>> It has been my observation that folks that love solar, hate to cut trees, 
>> even tho trees, in our climate, grow faster now due to climate change.
>> 
>> Ken Schaal
>> CommonWealthSolar.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 12:45 PM Dan Fink <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I use Solar Shading from Comoving Magnetics on Android. I had my class test 
>>> it versus the Solar Pathfinder and Solmetric Suneye, and our shading 
>>> readings were within 6-8%.
>>> 
>>> The Solmetric Sunviewer app is also handy. I have never tried their iPV app 
>>> because of the price, and because Solar Shades is working fine for me.
>>> 
>>> Dan Fink
>>> Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
>>> IREC Certified Instructor™ for: 
>>> ~ PV Installation Professional
>>> ~ Small Wind Installer
>>> Executive Director, Buckville Energy
>>> NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
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>>> 
>>> 970.672.4342
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:28 AM Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I still use the sun eye and solmetric, noting works as well as being on 
>>>> site, solmetric had an app way back when that was on a subcription bases
>>>> Jerry
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 9:22 AM Jay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m wondering about which apps people are using for determining shading 
>>>>> and sun position. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thx
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peltz Power. 
>>>>> 
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>>>> On Sep 3, 2018 9:22 AM, "Jay" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering about which apps people are using for determining shading 
>>>> and sun position. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thx
>>>> Jay
>>>> 
>>>> Peltz Power. 
>>>> 
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