I think the reason the older systems lasted so long compared to the newer ones 
is load control and generally a large battery bank  so they were not cycled to 
death

I also suspect the newer inverters are not as “tough” for lack of a better 
description

I have a customer with a rebuilt SW 4024 in the box because he was unsure how 
the magnum inverters would hold up !

They are now 10 and going strong I guess he can stop worrying now !

Just random thoughts,
Bob ellison

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Michael Morningstar <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Replacing old SW’s has accounted for about half of my work load for the last 
> two or three years. When my clients have limited means and a single SW4024, I 
> install a MS4024 w/conduit box, and leave everything else intact. Often, when 
> dealing with really remote sites, I can have the client send me some pictures 
> of the “power wall” and I can make one trip out showing up with everything I 
> need too make the swap in an few hours. My service truck is stocked for every 
> contingency to do so. 
> 
> Dual inverters, I lean towards a pre-wired MS4024PAE Mini-Magnum power 
> center. That’s a pretty quick swap too.
> 
> When customers do have the means, or say it's is a new client who purchased a 
> place with a legacy system, then I just start from scratch, In that case I 
> specify Radians, either 4 or 8kws, because the Mate 3’s make my life so much 
> easier. I get calls all the time from folks who have Magnums and ME-ARC 
> controllers……….”How do I get back to %” Plus with the Mate 3, if these get 
> wonky, I can have the client send me pictures of the “Events” so Iknow what 
> were up against. Way more problems with Magnum reliability in the last few 
> years too.
> 
> The question I think about all the time is why is it that all my earlier 
> systems and those installed by others do so well. I mean, I have built 
> hundreds and hundreds of SW based systems with modest arrays with a great 
> success rate. Long battery life and minimal equipment failure. Nowadays I 
> feel like Im running around putting out fires and wasting my life on hold 
> waiting for “tech support”. I almost never see ten years with FLA’s.
> 
> I love it when I come across an Ananda power center, what a blast from the 
> past.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings Esteemed Wrenches;
>> 
>> I have yet another customer whose 20+ yr old Trace SW inverter has flown off 
>> to inverter Nirvana.  I have replaced a few over the years and never quite 
>> solved the quandary of whether to replace the entire power board, or to 
>> retrofit a Magnum/ Outback in place of the SW, and keep the old Trace DC 
>> enclosure.  In this particular case, he has a pair of SW 4024s on an old 
>> Ananda power center. I'm considering taking the system to 48 v as well, 
>> since this will let us use the Magnum 4.4 kW inverters.  This however will 
>> also involve rewiring 20 yr old arrays of 50 and 75 watt modules......
>> What is the consensus on the best replacement practices on these legacy 
>> systems?  I have several out there with the clock ticking down.  My current 
>> idea is to just keep the Ananda and use Magnum's extension boxes to connect 
>> up the new MS 4448 inverters.  Its a tough call: I've replaced a few single 
>> SW installs and reused the Trace DC enclosure, and cursed working in those 
>> tiny boxes.  In other cases, I've put up a whole new system, but wondered if 
>> that was over kill too.  It seems to be a case of more field installation 
>> hours vs more equipment costs.
>> 
>> Sure be handy, if someone made an SW replacement kit, there are still a 
>> bunch of them out there.
>> 
>> As always, thanks for all your comments and ideas,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
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