Hi kienan,

There is no guarantee that they have a BMS in them, not all lithium do. 

A simple test is to take them up carefully to a higher voltage, but not too 
high, to see if they turn off. 

As to info about them I’d want to know.
Chemistry ( would be good to know if they are capable of catching on fire)
Cycle life

Just sucks seeing people getting screwed. 

Jay




> On Mar 4, 2019, at 5:23 AM, Kienan Maxfield <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just got back from looking at an off-grid system that is only about 4 
> months old or so, and it has several problems. I have specialized in off-grid 
> for 8 years, so most of the problems will be easy for me, but there's just 
> one thing that is a bit perplexing and I'm hoping someone might have some 
> advice.
> 
> The system was "designed" by some retailer in Texas (I don't know who) and 
> the home-owner found some local installer to put it together for him (they 
> already charged a ridiculous price and they won't come back). The battery is 
> a big bank of DKD LiFePO4 batteries, each one says 100 Ah @ 12.8V. They are 
> in series sets of 4 for 48V. I think there were 5 strings (500 ah total). 
> There are no com wires from battery to battery or anything like that (nor did 
> I find anywhere for com ports). I have not yet been successful in finding any 
> information about these batteries online. I'm not that familiar with this 
> type of battery and I'm hoping that some of you might have some info/insight 
> on a couple of questions about this situation. Here's a picture of one of the 
> batteries,
> 
> <IMG_4362.jpg>
> 
> The biggest question is if this configuration is okay. I'm not familiar with 
> this type of batteries, but I saw at least one brand that said not to put 
> their batteries in series. They said that (at least with their brand) if you 
> needed a 48V battery, you couldn't use (4) 12V batteries.
> Does anybody have any thoughts (positive or negative) or experiences with 
> these batteries? 
> Does anybody have any technical information (like a voltage/SOC curve or 
> anything else) for these batteries?
> I will be fixing the other things in his system, but when he asks what I 
> think about his battery bank, I don't know what to tell him at this point. He 
> also has no idea how to tell how full his batteries are, and since it doesn't 
> seem like his batteries have any kind of readout or anything, I'm not sure 
> what to tell him on that either. If I could find a Voltage/SOC curve or a 
> voltage/SOC conversion table, that would help on that front.
> 
> Thank-you,
> Kienan
> 
> 
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