Hi dave

Radian Control boards can definitely be field replaced. Done it many times 

Try kris stone. Hes ex outback tech, sells replacement parts, solid advice. 

Jay
Peltz power. 

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Dave Tedeyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> I thought I would pick the hive mind to get some thoughts on whose 
> responsibility it is when you service a system and things go wrong beyond 
> your control.
> 
> Here is the situation:
> Outback Radian GS8048 inverter (out of warranty) goes offline and stops 
> working. Customer calls me to check it out, and in the meantime, they had an 
> electrician rewire the backed up loads to bypass the inverter (not realizing 
> there was a simple bypass switch...). By the time I get there the inverter is 
> working again. I wire the backed up loads back to the inverter, educate them 
> about the bypass switch, and call Outback. We see some erroneous data on 
> Optics, and so they suggest I replace all the ethernet cables with shielded 
> cat5e. I do that, and charge the customer for the visit.
> 
> A few days later, the inverter goes stops working again. I go back out and 
> this time the issue is still active. Outback suspects it is one of the 
> control boards, which cannot be field replaced. So the choices are send the 
> whole inverter to Outback, or get a new Power stack for about $2500. So I 
> send the inverter in. I offer to the customer to not have them pay for my 
> labor this visit, since they already paid me to fix this issue and it did not 
> work.
> 
> Outback tests the inverter, finds no fault, although I ask them to replace 
> the board anyway, since the fault was intermittent. They tested it and it was 
> working then it left their facility. I receive it in a rough looking box. I 
> go reinstall it, and the mate3 sees it, and the communications are okay, 
> which is the original issue that I sent it in for. But now it will not put 
> out any AC voltage. So a completely different issue, but still a useless 
> piece of equipment in its current state. Tech support and I cannot determine 
> exactly what is wrong after running through some troubleshooting steps, so 
> they say I need to send it back to their facility. The best I can come up 
> with is that it got damaged during shipment on the way back. (I was not 
> excited to see that they left some poor Fedex driver to handle a 130lb 
> package on their own....) So the inverter is currently in transit back to 
> Outback.
> 
> Here is the question:
> Would you all be charging the customer for all the time spent on 
> troubleshooting and shipping, or at some point do you eat some of these 
> costs? Even though (I am fairly certain) that I have done nothing negligent 
> and none of this is my fault... but I am still not sure if it is right to 
> charge the customer for all this back and forth when my actions have not 
> resulted in a fixed and usable inverter. I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts and 
> feedback on this sort of situation.
> 
> Cheers, 
> Dave
> 
> Dave Tedeyan, PE
> Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC
> 
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