5 kva max, no surge regardless of use. A rather large shortcoming for a battery inverter.
I’m guessing they were thinking more of battery sell mode vs powering loads directly, but just a guess. Jay Peltz power > On May 6, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Dave Tedeyan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Is the 5kw limit and no surge capacity for the backed up AC loads only when > operating off grid? If you occasionally trip a breaker during the relatively > rare times when the grid is out (around here at least) it is not such a big > deal. But if you had to deal with that daily, you would have to be way more > conservative as to what loads are allowed to be backed up. > > Also, is there an inverter bypass built into the BOS enclosure, or do you > need to wire up a separate one in case of inverter failure. > > Cheers, > Dave > > Dave Tedeyan, PE > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC > > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 > o. 607.277.1118 x121 f. 607.277.2119 > www.taitem.com > > Solar • Sustainability • Energy • Design > Certified B-Corporation since 2013 > > >> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:24 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm finding the SkyBox to be reliable hardware, if you don't need big surge >> capability. >> But the software is still in flux. I have had to reject software updates >> that froze the system, going back to the previous version to bring it back >> again. >> >> One issue is that AC coupling does not work with multiple Skyboxen, unlike >> with older Radians. >> Another huge problem that seems to be software related is that dual SkyBoxen >> with different sized solar arrays discharge their battery banks at different >> rates. This becomes an issue in multiple day grid outages like we now expect >> in north CA fire season. You'd think the SkyBox master-slave relationship >> would allow them to coordinate, but this causes the one with a smaller solar >> array to run down it's battery sooner, faulting the system causing a >> complete shutdown of both SkyBoxen. >> OutBack says they are not fixing this, so I'm looking at SolArk for systems >> larger than 5 kW. >> >> Don Barch >> Energy Solar >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 13, Issue 124 >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, May 04, 2020 2:40 pm >> To: [email protected] >> >> Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." >> >> >> When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: >> line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the >> quoted message. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Skybox (Dave Tedeyan) >> 2. Re: Skybox (Jerry Shafer) >> 3. Re: Skybox (jay) >> 4. Re: Skybox ([email protected]) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 21:32:38 -0400 >> From: Dave Tedeyan <[email protected]> >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Skybox >> Message-ID: >> <ca+cq0butzbbg84gavcjoyq6ahpgz6ctwy_i_eczepubrfe7...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi All, >> >> Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have someone >> interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with them and if >> they are reliable. >> >> Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> >> *Dave Tedeyan, PE* >> Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> >> 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> o. *607.277.1118 x121* f. 607.277.2119 >> www.taitem.com >> >> Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? 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Outback has been around in the off grid >> environment and is my go to, but hey that's just me >> Jerry >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2020, 6:32 PM Dave Tedeyan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have >> > someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with them >> > and if they are reliable. >> > >> > Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> > which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> > purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Dave >> > >> > *Dave Tedeyan, PE* >> > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> > >> > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> > o. *607.277.1118 x121* f. 607.277.2119 >> > www.taitem.com >> > >> > Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? 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I have >> > someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with >> > them and if they are reliable. >> > >> > Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> > which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> > purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Dave >> > >> > Dave Tedeyan, PE >> > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> > >> > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> > o. 607.277.1118 x121 f. 607.277.2119 >> > www.taitem.com <http://www.taitem.com/> >> > >> > Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? 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The 8kW has no battery >> disconnect, but the 12 kW has one, if you're using non-lithium based >> batteries. >> >> Daryl >> Penobscot Solar Design >> >> >> > HI Dave, >> > >> > The reason I???ve not used it, is that is has no surge. >> > >> > You might also look at the Sol Ark >> > >> > Jay >> > Peltz Power >> > >> >> On May 3, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Dave Tedeyan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have >> >> someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with >> >> them and if they are reliable. >> >> >> >> Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> >> which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> >> purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> Dave Tedeyan, PE >> >> Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> >> >> >> 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> >> o. 607.277.1118 x121 f. 607.277.2119 >> >> www.taitem.com <http://www.taitem.com/> >> >> >> >> Solar ??? Sustainability ??? Energy ??? 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