Jason:


Several issues come to mind:



1.   I think the question that dictates is the insulation rating of the
Envoy and associated wiring as possibly exposed to voltages within the
panelboard.  This is akin, but not identical, to the scenario described in
NEC 300.3(C).  Insulation rating matters if any low voltage equipment could
in any odd-ball scenario contact an energized part.  I don’t imagine the
Envoy assembly has an insulation rating.  The insulation rating must also
apply to any communications, CT or any other purposed conductors associated
the Envoy.  Indeed, this is the same problem regularly encountered when
installing energy monitor equipment, such as E-gauge or similar, in panels.

2.   If there are any power line communications interference problems, you
want your Enphase branch circuits to land in a separate sub-panel so you
can apply filtering if needed.  The Envoy must be connected to that
sub-panel.  Enphase makes some custom combiners for this specific purpose.
Any reason you are not using a sub-panel or Enphase combiner to collect
Enphase circuits?

3.   If the Envoy is in a metal can will the Wi-Fi work?

4.   If there is so much room, would you consider mounting an enclosure in
the panel inside of which the Envoy could be mounted?  A PVC pull box, as
one option, would not diminish the Wi-Fi signal any more than it already is
and would provide the insulation needed to keep energized parts away from
the low voltage equipment that is the Envoy.  I have even bent up some
galvanized sheet metal partitions to install in breaker panels.  If well
fabricated and bonded, this has made me feel warm and fuzzy about the
safety of same.

5.   Based on the above, I would not put a naked Envoy in a breaker panel
unless it was my own house.



I hope these musings help you decide on a design strategy that you and the
AHJ think is safe and legal.



Sincerely,



William Miller

Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985





*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] *On
Behalf Of *Jason Szumlanski
*Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:00 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Enphase Envoy Enclosures



Can anyone point to any code issues with mounting an Envoy inside of a
panelboard? For example, when installing a 3-phase commercial system with a
large 400A AC combiner panelboard, there is often PLENTY of room to mount
an Envoy inside on a DIN rail. Aside from the manufacturer's instructions
not specifically listing this option, I can't see any reason that it would
be prohibited. The only downside I can see would be slightly more difficult
access to service buttons.



I would argue that it is better. The DIN rail would be bonded to the
enclosure. The DIN rail that Enphase ships with the Envoy is too short to
accept a DIN mounted grounding terminal. When mounting in a non-metallic
enclosure I run an EGC to a grounding terminal on a longer DIN rail that I
install, not the included one. I'm wondering how people handle the lack of
a ground terminal on the Envoy and whether they even run an EGC along with
the circuit conductors when mounting an Envoy in a non-metallic enclosure.
I have not been able to get a good answer from Enphase on how they expect
this to be accomplished. I suppose if the Envoy does not need an equipment
ground because it is insulated, and the DIN rail is not exposed once the
Envoy is mounted. Maybe it is their opinion that no EGC is required, but I
see the DIN rail as needing an EGC.



Anyway, that's a lengthy side note. I'm mainly wondering if the Envoy can
be mounted in a panelboard.







Jason Szumlanski
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