Kirk, was that Hughes net that wouldn't recognize the mate?
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 12:23 PM Kirk Herander, VSE <[email protected]>
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> I have a site with satellite internet. it's router would not recognize the
> Mate 3s or an eguage monitor. I used a Verizon data sim card / jetpack with
> a repeater to create a Lan connection and all is fine for 9 months now.
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> On 10/12/2020 8:51:19 PM, Howie Michaelson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Thanks guys. I really appreciate the info. That does a lot to clear up my
> misgivings with attempting this!
>
> My only hesitancy at this point is switching to the Mate3. When it first
> came out, I put it into an off grid upgrade, but ended up hating it - I
> found it more complicated and less intuitive than the original Mate (which
> says a lot considering the lack of intuitive design of that). So it seemed
> harder to explain to my clients. (Maybe I just hate change).
>
> Dan, do you know why satellite won't work for the optics internet
> connections? Many of my remote sites only have satellite internet access.
>
> Thanks again,
> Howie
> Howie Michaelson
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> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 7:56 PM Dan Fink <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Howie; I'm pretty satisfied with the current condition of the OpticsRE
>> world. Most of the past problems have been ironed out, and I've had good
>> email tech support from Outback (!).
>>
>> You'll need a Mate 3S, an Outback Hub, and a Flexnet DC with shunts for
>> each channel you want to measure. If all your equipment is Outback, you
>> only need the Net shunt on the FLexnet DC, otherwise, more shunts. As Jerry
>> mentioned, the Mate 3S will automatically get it's IP address from the
>> router and connect online, you just type its MAC address into the OpticsRE
>> portal and it starts communicating.
>>
>> The critical thing is the internet connection -- it must be rock solid or
>> you'll have no end of woes. Satellite internet (Hughes, Exced) will NOT
>> work with it (nor with Midnite's monitoring system BTW). Wired LAN (Cat 5)
>> has worked the best for me, but do NOT exceed (or even approach, in my
>> experience) the 50 foot limit. If you use a wifi adaptor on the Mate 3S
>> instead of wired, make sure you have an *excellent* wifi signal in the room
>> with the Mate 3S.  I've never tried a cell adaptor, as where I work cell
>> service is weak and spotty if it even exists, but I assume a very strong
>> cell connection would be needed. In one situation with no cell service,
>> long wire run for ethernet and bad interior wifi (concrete/stucco/adobe
>> style walls) but good  local coax modem internet, I just ran fiber optic
>> cable with a fiber to ethernet adaptor on each end (Mate 3S and cable
>> modem) outdoors in conduit, about $150 in equipment, and that cable could
>> be half mile long but seem like 3 feet to the Mate 3S.
>>
>> As for the Midnite controller, just put one shunt for the Flexnet DC on
>> the output of the Midnite CC, and you'll at least be able to read amperage
>> and work the watt/hour meter. The Flexnet DC gives you a shunt channel for
>> net on the main DC negative, plus 3 more shunt channels to measure whatever
>> you want -- wind turbine, other brand CCs, etc.
>>
>> The configurable email alerts and automated daily data dumps are super
>> handy for systems that are hours drive away. I also learned to set the Mate
>> 3S to automatically reboot every 24 hours....this (oddly) cleared up many
>> problems I had in the past with the Mate 3S dropping offline randomly.
>>
>> Dan Fink
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>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 5:05 PM Howie Michaelson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey FOlks,
>>> While Outback had been my goto offgrid system, over the last many years
>>> I have gravitated to the Conext and Sol-Ark systems.  However, I have many
>>> legacy Outback VFX systems out there and some could really use remote
>>> communication.  Unfortunately, I have stayed far away from Optics RE, as I
>>> haven't been thrilled with the reports of issues the system had. However,
>>> it seems it is the best option for remote oversight, so I am trying to
>>> figure out what is required and what it is capable of.
>>> I've read through the initial documentation and as best I can gather, I
>>> need a Mate 3s and an internet connection - is that all?  I assume having a
>>> FlexnetDC in the system is critical as well.  I'm also wondering if there
>>> is a way to monitor basic production data from a Midnite Classic through
>>> the Optics system. And is the Optics RE system fairly solid since I'm not
>>> thrilled about putting in systems that need too much fussing or attention
>>> to keep operating once they are set up properly. Finally, are there any
>>> other comparable monitoring equipment that would work for monitoring such
>>> systems?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Howie
>>>
>>> *Howie Michaelson**Sun Catcher*
>>>
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