My advice would be to use a DC charge controller, and forget the frequency control/ AC coupled goofiness all together.  This has been covered ad nauseam in the past on the list.  Its just not a good idea off grid.  I occasionally will design large systems with some AC coupled array, but only enough to match the daytime AC loads.  Newer AC coupled systems with better communication between the inverters work better, but if frequency shifting is your main control, its just never going to work very well.

Besides the issues you're having, you can add poor battery management and premature cell failures to the list, along with the unforgivable "Dark Start" when the batteries are discharged below the LBCO setting.

Ray Walters
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On 11/23/20 8:57 AM, Mac Lewis wrote:
Hi Chris,

I have no direct experience trying to troubleshoot devices that can't handle frequency shift, that seems hard to do. However, I might utilize a relay approach to solve it.  You could use the relay functions in the Sunny Island to start dropping strings and/or inverters to keep the frequency shift from occurring in the first place.  There is probably a more elegant way to do this, but it may work.  I believe there is a way to keep frequency shift from happening in one of the many setpoints on the Sunny Island.  I think this is a serious disadvantage of frequency shift to control PV output because so many devices are designed to work at a precise frequency.

Good luck

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    Hope folks are well out there. I am wondering if anyone has
    experience addressing a frequency oscillation with a split phase
    off grid Sunny Island system. I am working on an off grid home
    project with 2 units that has just not worked right since
    installation. The small number of 240 volt loads and most notably
    the geothermal heat pump goes into a loud vibration as the
    frequency shifts and does so for 20 seconds, then settles down
    into normal operation. 45 seconds later, it does it again and just
    repeats itself until the water in the storage tank is up to
    temperature. The current draw doubles when it is vibrating and it
    seems to drain the batteries faster than expected when left on.

    Wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts or is experienced
    off grid tech in New England interested in some troubleshooting
    work to help resolve things.

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