I have two of the inverters from Cyboenergy that I purchased about 6 years 
back. The off grid N model works fairly well with medium to large loads but 
will not run to operate things like Makita battery chargers or other small 
electronics unless another base load like a fan is added. It definitely never 
operated in the manner by running it’s own battery charger that they sold and 
marketed. I believe the newer unit accepts higher PV voltage now as well as the 
ability to operate with 48v nominal battery banks while initially it was only 
36v. Overall I concluded the only application for it was to run something 
simple like a large AC fan. The hot water heater model never worked for me 
either and all I ever got from them was excuses. It’s possible these products 
have evolved and improved but at the time it seemed like the founder was over 
burdened since he was also the one providing tech support. At $1100 each it was 
an expensive experiment much like the Heart Transverter I purchased in that 
same time frame. Both were hard lessons on trying to support the little guy. 

Seems like the Phocos Anygrid would be a better option if going down that road. 
I’ve been wanting to purchase one for awhile now but have no experience with it 
yet although I’ve been impressed with Phocos products in the past.

Nick


> On Apr 13, 2021, at 1:59 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> There’s this company. I don’t have any experience with their products but the 
> concept is promising. 
> 
> http://cyboenergy.com/ <http://cyboenergy.com/>
> 
> rick brown
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>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> 
>> We've done some off grid EV charging, and one thing that makes life much 
>> easier, is to go to the lower power chargers.  So far, we've just done PV to 
>> battery inverter to AC charger to car.  less efficient, but less trouble.  
>> We've also setup dedicated charging outlets/ circuits on relays to 
>> prioritize the house battery.  
>> 
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>> On 4/13/21 4:29 PM, [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Mac,
>>> 
>>> You can charge with DC directly from a PV solar array without an inverter 
>>> or regulator. The current is self limiting by the amount of PV solar power 
>>> you are making at any moment.
>>> 
>>> The magic is knowing know how to trigger the charge port communications so 
>>> your EV controller knows that there is a safe connection to a DC power 
>>> source. Perhaps the will get you started: 
>>> https://www.evcreate.nl/chademo-fast-charging-in-diy/ 
>>> <https://www.evcreate.nl/chademo-fast-charging-in-diy/>
>>> 
>>> Be safe when working with 500Vdc.
>>> 
>>> Larry Crutcher
>>> Starlight Solar Power Systems
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Matt Sherald <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mac,
>>> 
>>> Our car gobbles 11,500W when it's plugged in to the grid.  Even if we 
>>> reduced the charge rate it would still be a heck of a draw - the chargers 
>>> in the EVs are greedy.  I'll be curious to hear if anyone has a solution, 
>>> but my bet is that you need to give the EV a deep well to pull from 
>>> (probably deeper than a battery bank or PV array can directly and 
>>> consistently satisfy).
>>> 
>>> -Matt
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:55 PM Mac Lewis <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Sorry, I should have clarified, I am interested in EV charging with no grid 
>>> available.  I think that Solaredge requires a grid
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:51 PM Dana Orzel <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> SolarEdge
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
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>>> 
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>>> From: RE-wrenches <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Mac Lewis
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 5:24 PM
>>> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected] 
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>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV direct EV charging
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hey wrenches,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Are there any purpose built inverters designed to charge an EV,  PV direct 
>>> without batteries?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
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