I don't know what you mean by unprotected. That is exactly what an IP65 rating suggests - outdoors, subject to the elements. Nowhere does it say in the product literature thay it must be "protected," whatever that means. Protected against the environment that it is rated to be in? Seriously?
If it can get wet, it shouldn't rust around the undisturbed factory installed screws in a couple of weeks. If this is how the product is going to be, it is totally unsuited for OUTDOOR installations, which is exactly where it says it can be installed on the spec sheet. Jason Szumlanski Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP) Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956 Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208 On Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 8:50 PM William Bryce <wlbr...@pineridgeproducts.com> wrote: > Hi Jason > > Rust will have no effect on the IP65 rating of the battery. > The batteries are intended for outdoor protected install only. > Because the batteries are heavy, installers can easily nick or damage the > powdercoat on the battery leading to rust. Because the battery is white it > shows the rust way easier than other outdoor rated batteries. > > The case of the battery must be made from* steel *because the UL rating > certifies if the battery was to have a meltdown, no flame can escape from > the battery > > The manual needs to better specify the protected install. > > Are the batteries installed outside unprotected? > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 7:54 PM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> We have five PF16 installed outdoors at a home. It has been only 2 weeks >> and I'm seeing rust forming around some cover screws (both the top cover >> and front cover). The brackets are also showing some rust spots, and under >> the rims of the top cover I'm seeing rust spots that look like they are >> from small metal shavings. We also found minor rust around a prepunched >> knockout immediately after removing the protective plastic cap. >> >> This all happened after they had been mounted outdoors for two weeks, but >> no conduit had been installed yet and the top covers hadn't even been >> opened once. >> >> Is anyone else seeing these issues? I'm pretty concerned that my customer >> won't accept this early defect, and I have lots of outdoor installations >> planned for other customers. >> >> P.S. This is not a coastal location (although all of Florida is kind of >> coastal). Regardless, it's IP65 and should withstand a typical outdoor >> installation. >> >> >> Jason Szumlanski >> Florida Solar Design Group >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >>
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