For what it is worth, I have installed a number of Wildcat generators ranging 
from 15KW to 50 KW. When I was a child my mother always told me that if I 
didn't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
Enough said
Pieter Huebner
Off Grid Enterprises
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Subject: Re: [Re-wrenches] Generators

Team Wrenches,
I am hearing alot about gen sets, some are small manufactures and once they are 
gone most of the parts will also be gone. Bluestar and Kohler have been around 
and l can still get parts for 20 year old machines. So consider service-ability 
down the road befor investing big cash in a small producer. Also 1800 rpm water 
cooled direct drives are far better than 3600 rpm air cooled or reduction drive 
models both life span issues.
Fun times

On Wed, Sep 2, 2026, 8:06 AM Mick Abraham 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Greetings, Mechanix~ Dana Orzel wrote about the inability of 
www.wildcatpowergen.com<http://www.wildcatpowergen.com> to bring their 13kW 
liquid cooled genset to market.
Drat. I remember the optimism from "Power Pioneer" Dana about Wildcat brand, so 
I'm sorry those hopes are dashed.

Do any List members have experience with Hatz brand diesel generators or 
engines? Here's a distributor located only
one state away from you, Dana:

https://intelligentcontrols.io/collections/generators/products/hatz-fipmg-generator?variant=43890096832742

I can't tell if these are air cooled or liquid cooled. Liquid cooled would be 
especially dandy if one could reclaim some of the heat
for beneficial purposes. The bigger Hatz gensets are only 5-ish kW before 
altitude derations are factored in...
and surely electronics are required by the variable RPM feature. The native 
integration with Victron power gear caught
my eye some years ago, and I've always had a soft spot for engine powered DC 
battery chargers... or maybe I'm just soft in the head.

Hatz also packages AC versions but so far as I can tell, the American AC units 
are 120v only. Here are links from the US website for Hatz:

https://hatz.com/en-united-states/products/ac-power-generation

https://hatz.com/en-united-states/products/dc-battery-chargers

I'm guessing none of these products have American style UL listings, so there's 
another possible issue.

How about it, Power Pioneers? Have you any tales of real world Hatz experience, 
good / bad or indifferent?

Q: How can one recognize a pioneer?
A: They're the ones with the arrows in their backs.

As always, the Wrench List is the Bomb!

Mick Abraham, Proprietor
www.abrahamsolar.com<http://www.abrahamsolar.com>

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