On 7/16/12, Kartik Agaram <a...@akkartik.com> wrote: > every lisper I talk > to *hates* significant whitespace.
What an understatement. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/comp.lang.lisp/Fd2kb8yyUVk Ken Tilton is such a heartwarming character. > > I think our target audience is non-lispers who're starting out with > lisp. So far it seems sweet-exprs wouldn't really help this > hypothetical user because he probably has to deal with an existing > codebase that doesn't use sweet-exprs, because its devs are already > fluent with parens-and-prefix, etc., etc. > > Have y'all considered a reverse translator that reads > fully-parenthesized lisp or scheme and emits clean and clear > parens-and-prefix-free code? Perhaps we should mirror the top 20 lisp > projects in our readable style, sucking in new commits as they happen, > and see if newcomers to lisp find our mirrors useful. Does this seem > like a viable strategy? > See iformat.sscm - incomplete in that it doesn't take advantage of infix. Now that you bring it up, it does seem to be a viable strategy. Now to find 20 active scheme projects and mark all of them as the top 20... Personally, I really like Lisp. After a year of hacking and thinking in Haskell, though, I've grown to dislike parentheses-all-over. Hence my return to this list, when before I'd pretty much drifted away. Haskell is nice, but it'll be even harder to get into my workplace - at least Guile comes installed-by-default, Haskell requires me to bootstrap to a really old GHC before I incrementally upgrade to a recent GHC (I know 'coz I tried, and while I now have GHC 6.10 happily in my personal work machine, I probably have to do all of that all over again on each of the other central work servers). Or use Hugs, but then I lose a chunk of the Haskell compiled advantage and would rather just work in a dynamic language, like Scheme. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Readable-discuss mailing list Readable-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/readable-discuss
