Delphi programmers are big boys.
They have a chance to take a free look and decide if it's on/of target.

If a lot come onboard and there is more demand for database support, it will follow.
(Either RB or third-party.)

After that, the next complaint will be "to much attention devoted to xDelphi programmers"

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This is part of my point about Delphi v. RB. Delphi was designed for database solutions, so this comment shows why RB trying to sell to Delphi shops is off-target:

Trausti Thor Johannsson wrote:
On this note. Name me one real world class product that is written in Delphi. Not some DB frontend financial app, not delphi itself.
True, even the popular Delphi apps are databases. Duh? That's how Delphi was positioned. Borland never sold Delphi as general purpose -- they sold it as a replacement for aging xBASE, Paradox, and Reflex apps. I moved to Delphi precisely because the mid-range POS solutions in the 1980s were in xBASE and Paradox. RB doesn't have the same level of database support, by itself.

Examples of Delphi:

Cold Fusion Studio-MX (next version to use MS tools, though), NetObjects (most of their stuff), Timeslips (huge in hourly billing), HomeSite (which was the best HTML editor on Windows for a time), Net2Phone, DBF-Desktop, SQL Navigator, Dilbert: Not Just a Calendar (I love that one!)

Borland positioned Delphi as a DB tool and focused most of their energies on database-related issues. That is why the grid tools are so good. The box lists database tools and included drivers, grids, charting tools, reporting tools, etc. The Delphi box doesn't mention writing games, graphic editors, or anything else.

Again, this is an issue of what tool fits a particular job. Trying to sell Delphi users on RB, which is clearly what Geoff wants to do, then the database portions of RB need to be put on steroids. Most, if not all, my issues with RB relate to data-related controls like the listbox (dbgrid), no reporting tool included, no charting included, etc.

I'm using RB on a Mac for database front ends. So far, it lacks tools I had in Delphi. That was my point and my only point. Delphi users tend to be data hounds in IT departments, or indie database devs.

It's all about tool + job.

- Scott

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