This will no doubt get lost in all the flotsam but:

RS is a business, and the decisions regarding their one and only source of income will mostly be based on the following, in no particular order:
1. Industry changes and trends.
2. Bug and feature request report statistics, which are derived 100% from the bug reporting system. 3. Discussions with customers who have decided to discuss their particular concerns one-to-one with RS in an intelligent and respectful manner.

I can personally attest to the fact that RS does respond to intelligent, and reasonably thought out requests for bug fixes and feature additions. If you prepend your request with "I know you don't have enough manpower to do all this," you get extra points because, it was, is and probably always will be true.

We haven't had a wild party like THIS in a long time. If you think that entering bug reports is a waste of time, you are dead wrong. You will not get anything done by complaining here. It just will not happen. It may be fun to debate and even helpful to vent, but it will NOT advance your cause.

About 100 or so, tops, of the NUG members are getting involved with this thread and it's sub-threads. About 1/4 of those involved have made comments that certainly would not warm me up to changing the course of MY business. Let's imagine there are 100k paid RB customers total in the world. that means that the people involved in this thread represent .001 of the total customers.

How important we all are! We expound our complaints and will fight against the mighty, evil RS! We are so important that RS will change listen to our whining despite our small numbers!

That's the way it comes across, folks. And I can tell you that it hurts them in a personal way. A lot. Everyone who works for RS knows that the customer is their lifeblood. Again, I know this because I've spoken directly to many of them for years.

Those of you that ARE being a bit too rough, are tearing into a company of about 25 or so individual people. This isn't MS or Apple. They are not faceless and they not immune to hurt.

In my years at AT&T, the company spent a lot of money sending us to classes that helped us to be more understanding people. Why? Not because, Mother Theresa was the chairwomen of the board. Because it made BUSINESS SENSE.

None single one of us are that important to RS. I've been a paying customer since 1.0. Only partly by plan, my entire income is requires REALbasic. I've had a major upgrade to FTP Suite delayed a year because of difficulties getting a new feature into sockets, certainly costing me more money than I want to figure out at a time when my family surely need it. The Windows version of A-OK! The Wings of Mercury was in limbo for even longer because of thread problems that have now been solved.

Who cares? I'm a fairly well-known figure in the RB community and vocal supporter. So what? In a business sense, I am not more important than any other licensee.

When I have a problem, I enter it into the DB. If it's THAT important, I'll contact the engineer's responsible for that particular corner of the product. If it's really important to me I go, hat-in-hand, to Geoff Perlman and explain the situation and how it affects me. Or, I use my Quick Fix from my support plan.

Sometimes the answer is no, coupled with a very logic explanation of why. But most of the time, the answer is yes, or at least, I am presented with decent workaround.

Please don't take the above as a judgment, it's really just advice. These type of discussions can be helpful and I know they are read by RS, but once they take on the tone that this one has (in many, not all, of the posts), the true message gets masked.

You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

Peace,
Joe
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