Thanks for the info. I did notice that certain applications won't even respond to System Events. I went to apple's web site where I downloaded an apple script to simulate menu item selections. It worked on the basic Mac apps, but didn't work with Realbasic. I find that really weird, especially since I used to the Apple Accessibility Inspector and was able to get values for both Mac apps as well as Realbasic. I still have a suspicion that I am till doing something wrong.

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