Look, if you think the grapes are sour, don't eat them. There's plenty of other choices available.
This is a Real-Basic developers list, not an Apple's "whine and cheese" OS list. Please find a more appropriate venue for your OS X grief at http://discussions.apple.com . ( No, I have nothing against you personally or professionally, and no I'm not affiliated with REAL software, I'm just bored to death hearing this exact discussion surface every other year for the past 20 years or so ) /Þór > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:realbasic- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Stenning > Sent: 27. september 2006 22:25 > To: REALbasic NUG <[email protected]>; Thom McGrath > Subject: Re: was: Appication Services Menu and RB - Now NEXT legacy > rubbish > > > > > On 27/9/06 22:39, "Thom McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This would become a security risk. By doing that, you allow an > > application to modify itself which is a very bad thing. > incorrect . The system would not allow any modification to anything > other > than the preferences directory relevant to the user. And in any case > the > user wouldn't modify these directly it would be the application. Its > all > down to the intelligence of the OS. > > > And what > > about upgrading the application? By deleting the bundle which > > contained your preferences, you'd start clean on a new version. > > That'd get on my nerves real quick. > > That's showing a lack of imagination. Remember I am talking about the > system > hiding and abstracting whats really going on from the user. To upgrade > an > application one would simply drag and drop the new app bundle into the > Application folder. Remember that its the OS GUI that controls exactly > what > happens when one drags and drops. > At this point the system would sense this and take account of the fact > that > an older version of the bundle already exists. It would then prompt to > ask > if the original preferences are to be kept. All this is doable. > The system would be aware of > > > > I think the current system is very elegant. > Really? You think the typical non-computer aware user likes to trawl > around > the library directory simply to figure out where the preferences or > dylibs > are. It certainly Is not elegant that after dragging an unwanted app > into > the bin there is still piles of rubbish left in folders all over the > place. > > I don't see all these > > crazy files spread everywhere because it's rare an application puts > > things in strange places anyway. > You may not- but I certainly do. Maybe you are simply just unaware of > what > your apps are spewing out. > > Windows has Uninsallers and an uninstall facility simply to handle this > fact. > > > They are usually just single files > > which you can drag-and-drop install and you're done - exactly as you > > want, right? > wrong. Many of my apps, consumer ones and pro-audio based ones, > squirt > files all over the place. Sure I understand why, and am capable of > deleting > some of them after a laborious trawl thru the directories. Call that > elegant???. But the typical user should not have to do all this. > > > If you really want to kill all remnants of an > > application, get AppZapper. > So OS/X is so elegant it requires a 3rd pty utility to clear out the > rubbish ?? Lovely. How user friendly. Well done Steve Jobs, brilliant > ingenuity there. > > > But when I delete an application, I tend > > to want my files to be left alone. > > > Maybe you do. I generally don't. And in any case I would like a choice > in > that decision. The standard default for dragging an app icon to the bin > should be for the system to prompt the user as to whether he wants all > the > settings removed. > > -- > > Thom McGrath, <http://www.thezaz.com/> > > "You realize you've created God in your own image when God hates all > > the same people you do." > > Nice quote :) > > > > On Sep 27, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Daniel Stenning wrote: > > > >> The OS could handle permissions - if intelligent enough. If a user > has > >> rights to use an app the OS should ensure that he gets his /her own > >> set of > >> preferences automatically. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: > > <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> > > > > Search the archives of this list here: > > <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: > <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> > > Search the archives of this list here: > <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives of this list here: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html>
