Dave -

Why is advertising bad, especially if it helps cover expenses? If people
don't like it, they can ignore it. How hard is that?

Bob Pegram

on 12/5/06 8:51 AM, Dave Wooldridge at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 12/5/06 7:19 AM, Björn Eiríksson wrote:
> 
>> I think a add-on tracker for REALbasic would be good. (On that REAL
>> would link to).
>> Some might say RB Garage is one, but no it does not come close to it, it
>> has no versioning, nor any cleanup of obsolete add-ons, making it
>> useless both for users and Vendors. IE Products that actually are
>> supported get buried deep down there while products that get posted once
>> and never more supported contribute to keep the actual products buried
>> in the useless pile of items.
> 
> 
> And who would spend their precious time constantly reviewing the 1,000's of
> listings every week to make sure they are not obsolete or unsupported?  And
> how would one know if a product is still supported without spending some
> more extra time to contact the developer?  Since many times the product may
> no longer be supported but the developer still has their web page up, making
> it hard to easily identify what products are still valid.
> 
> RBGarage.com currently relies on the developers who post their listings to
> keep them updated and current.  It is the developer's responsibility to log
> into their RBGarage.com account and remove discontinued products.  This is
> how VersionTracker.com does it as well.
> 
> I've always been a huge supporter of the REALbasic community, which has been
> my driving force to continue offering RBGarage.com as a free online
> resource, but I don't make any money from RBGarage.com.  Since 2003,
> RBGarage.com has only received 1 donation from a kind member, even though
> thousands of people use the site on a daily basis.  The advertising that the
> site currently displays only pays for some of the bandwidth and hosting
> fees, so RBGarage.com actually costs me money every month, and yet and I
> continue to offer it as a free web site to the REALbasic community.
> 
> So here's my big question to the REALbasic community:
> 
> The only way I could afford to dedicate time to "policing" the RBGarage.com
> database to personally weed out obsolete and old listings is if
> RBGarage.com's revenue stream increased to the point where the site was
> actually making some money instead of losing money.  Then I could dedicate
> some of the revenue to increased site development.
> 
> The only way I see that happening is if I charge a membership fee to search
> RBGarage.com's database.  Listings would continue to be free to submit, but
> using the site to find helpful items would require a monthly or annual
> membership fee.  This would also allow me to add more services and features,
> such as removing advertising and offering a handy desktop app for searching
> and tracking listings on RBGarage.com.
> 
> Would REALbasic developers be willing to pay a membership fee to subscribe
> to RBGarage.com???
> 
> My guess is that everyone's answer will be "no" and that they will want to
> see RBGarage.com continue as a free site, yet people will still complain
> about the listings (even though it is a free service).
> 
> BJORN:
> Please note that my reply is NOT directed at you.  Your comments are merely
> one of many that get periodically voiced on the mailing lists from various
> people about RBGarage.com and so I felt the need to reply to the community
> as a whole.
> 
> I gladly welcome any and all feedback on the issue.  Please email me
> directly with your comments, so as not to clog up the NUG.  Thanks!
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Wooldridge
> RB Garage Webmaster
> 
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