On Jan 8, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Bruce Carter wrote:

That's pretty much what the OpenDoc team was saying, right before a RIFt in the time/space continuum erased them from the universe...

On Jan 8, 2007, at 3:36 AM, Peter Bozek wrote:
Apple employees at carbon developer list claims that this is not true
- that Carbon is well, is maintained and there are no plans to
discontinue it in the future.

Considering how much of Cocoa uses *Carbon* to implement it's "magic," I seriously doubt that Carbon will be going away any time soon. If it did, parts of *Cocoa* would fail to work. The Carbon guys know where things are going, and Apple knows that killing off Carbon would not be a very good thing, since much of Apple's third- party support for major applications requires Carbon. Unlike Cocoa for Java (which was hardly used), Carbon is heavily used, and as such Apple must fix problems and add necessary functionality.

However, Carbon *is* just barely above maintenance mode. Things will be fixed, some new development is happening, but don't expect Apple to make any new technologies available with a straight C API, the API will be Objective-C -- which, by the way, is NOT Cocoa, Cocoa is just another framework to build against. However, it is possible to mix Carbon and Cocoa, and will get easier as time goes on. There are things that still need to be fixed in Cocoa as well (maximum path length, unicode string management, dynamic file management), but things are getting better there as well.

Repeat after me: Cocoa is just a framework, not some sort of "voodoo magic."

The Cocoa/Carbon wars are over, and both won.

--
Glenn L. Austin <><
Computer Wizard and Race Car Driver
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