On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Daniel Stenning wrote:

> Do I take it from this that RB developers would benefit from the  
> addition of
> such constructs to the RB language ?
>
>
> On 20/2/07 16:29, "Guyren Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> (first class functions,
>> continuations, closures, modifying classes at runtime,
>> metaclasses, ...). If you're comfortable with programming using those
>> abstractions, you can write programs that are more concise and
>> flexible than you can using REALbasic.

Yes, but no.

While such features are very powerful, inexperienced programmers may  
try to use them, perhaps think they should be using them, but instead  
overly complicate what they're trying to do.

Metaclasses, for example, are widely misused.

REALbasic strives to be beginner-friendly, and the result is a lot of  
software developed by subject matter experts. Such software may not  
be the best examples of computer science, but are usually the most  
practical and useful.

OTOH, experienced programmers could use some of these features to  
write libraries that are easier for everyone to use. I would love to  
write an Object-Relational mapping library for REALbasic. But until  
we have first-class classes (ideally metaclasses), I just don't think  
I can make such a library easy enough to use. Partly also, I'm hoping  
we will get first-class classes before horribly long, so I'd rather  
wait until then and do a really great OR library.

I think the ideal solution would be to make some of these sorts of  
features available, but not necessarily in your face so beginners  
don't try to use language features they don't need.

Regards,

Guyren G Howe
Relevant Logic LLC

guyren-at-relevantlogic.com ~ http://relevantlogic.com

REALbasic, PHP, Ruby/Rails, Python programming
PostgreSQL, MySQL database design and consulting
Technical writing and training


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