to Pierre and all,

"The dumb do not learn from their mistakes.
The smart learn mostly from them.
The wise on the other hand, learn from other people's mistakes."


I have been reading this list for several years now (and used to help 
newbies a lot more, when  I had more time).  All types of people have 
come and gone, talented, gruff, funny, smart, slow, academics, doers, 
opportunists, dreamers, newbies, "gurus", some people use rebol to 
change the world, others simply to have fun.

but there is one thing people here have always shared:

cooperation and a sense of camaraderie.  basically a good attitude 
towards others.

Pierre (or is it Pier? http://christian-action.blogspot.com/ ),  you are 
very academic in your approach, and do challenge everything, and that IS 
a sign of wisdom.  You obviously do not take things for granted, and 
seem (AFAICT by this limited view I can have of you) to genuinely want 
to make things better.  And for that I applaud you.

But there is one thing in this world which may negate any kind of 
quality and that is attitude:

"What is with The Insularity with this list? Why is it 100%
difficult for any person deemed "a regular" or a "guru" just to
stick with exchanging thinking about REBOL."

WE don't.

but YOU certainly do.  YOU keep poking at everybody, and though I have 
nothing to do in those discussions I feel bad if I had been any of the 
others you wrongly berate.  I have met many of them, some have 
doctorates and are highly regarded professors, others are actually at 
REBOL's employ, meaning they actually KNOW, not just deduce, like you 
do.   Frankly I DON'T CARE that there are differing possibilities in the 
INTERPRETATION of what is going on within REBOL's interpreter.

I objectively think its the FIRST time since I am on this list that 
someone so strongly comes across as being a total jerk.  Although a 
smart one.  Sorry for saying what I think, many others have tried to 
tell you politely that they thought your attitude is quite annoying 
(note that I did not use the word "us" or "we", I do not speak for the 
others, I speak for myself, I am not part of a cult, I just USE REBOL, 
its not a religion for me).  Not only the high-ups but many other people 
can't stand your attitude, pointing fingers, accusing, berating, 
generally barking like a little dog trying to prove he can take on a big 
one.  You are the only one starting this, and yes some of us are 
insulted not by what points you bring up, but in how you treat our 
intellects and our knowledge.

Stop telling everyone they are stupid.  did you notice that when you 
point a finger, three point backwards to you?  Do you think you are a 
righteous person who can come here and tell everyone here how to act and 
think?  come on, get laid, drink a beer, go see a baseball match, I 
don't know what makes you tick, but do it and stop being on our backs.

Right now, this whole mailing list is just tired of you... so please... 
stop before you get cut off.  I don't recall it ever being done 
before... but I am sick of your attitude.  And I know I am not alone, 
cause I'm a very tolerant person, and if I've had enough, I'm surely not 
the only one.

And although I know you are going to respond to me with righteous 
rhetoric... before you waste time calling me names, and saying I am an 
evil inconsiderate cultist or whatever... ask yourself this.

At this point, do I even care what you will say?


Thanks, and have an nice baseball match !!!

-MAx


PS:  for those who know me, sorry for being so pissed off.  This kind of 
aggressive flaming is not my kind (its the first time I even post 
something like this in my life), but I can't stand reading what I've 
been reading for days now, you are all brilliant people in your own ways 
and I can't stand reading this hate against you.
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