I agree, using collect 'emit is more intuitive.
The parallel with set/get is important too. I want to
be able to do this
collect to-word join "block-" name-var ...
so that in a complex loop the different result blocks
are named dynamically.
Is this possible to do if the argument is not a
lit-word (as per Ladislav email I thought it wouldn't
be possible) ?
regards
--- Andreas Bolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>
>
> Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 1:57:10 PM, Gregg wrote:
>
> > Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:07:25 AM, Ladislav
> wrote:
>
> >> But I (personally) don't think it is a good
> practice to use
> >> nontransparent argument passing anywhere and
> don't see any
> >> advantages of doing it. (nice flame bait, isn't
> it?)
>
> > Excellent flame bait! :) I think the perceived
> advantage may have
> > been usability, in not having to remember to use a
> lit-word! value.
> > Of course, SET and GET require it, as do a few
> others.
>
> I strongly agree with Ladislav, personally I dislike
> "nontransparent
> argument passing" [1] in most of the cases.
> Personally I find it to be
> of value in much used "console tools" such as
> 'source or 'help. In
> most other functions I find it far more intuitive to
> that if a
> function needs a literal word (a symbol) for
> something to actually
> pass it a lit-word!. The same goes for higher-order
> functions which
> take a function as an argument.
>
> That's why I prefer
>
> collect 'emit [ ... ]
>
> over
>
> collect emit [ ... ] .
>
> Intuitively I see this the following way: the
> function 'collect needs
> a label to use for a function it provides to the
> code-block passed as
> second argument. So passing it a lit-word! is more
> natural and more
> self-documenting in my opinion.
>
> A reader stumbling over "collect emit [ ... ]" would
> have to know that
> 'collect is a function taking two arguments and that
> the first
> argument is treated specially (a "lit-argument"). A
> reader not aware
> of the details of 'collect could also assume that
> the second line
> calls the function 'emit with a block! and calls the
> function 'collect
> with the value returned from the 'emit call.
>
>
> [1] I hope that really is the same as what I have in
> my mind as
> "get-arguments" (:arg) and "lit-arguments" ('arg) :)
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
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