I've been using Groove the application for about 6 months and find it invaluable to 
collaborate on projects with small teams.  It's file sharing, chat, 
security and replication are so brain-dead simple that I've gotten many diverse groups 
and running very faster than you could spell Intranet.

Thus inspired,  I looked more into Groove the platform for P2P app delivery.  
Specifically,  I looked into trying to write some code that would ride on 
top of their APIs so that I could deliver a better photo-sharing app to end-users.  It 
wasn't a very straightforward process,  and non-crossplatform COM 
is a major turn-off.

A very approachable compromise would be to use Groove's file sharing to distribute 
Rebol scripts with embedded data.  I started prototyping 
something like this to deliver a photo-browsing View application, embedding JPGs into 
my REBOL files (so I didn't have to deal with Groove's storage 
API).  As much as I would like the architectural cleanliness of a REBOL-only solution, 
 using Groove to bootstrap a subset of Link functionality was 
pretty attractive.

I think under this scenario you'd only be on the hook for the View run-time licenses.  
Since it's not really clear how Groove will treat either small 
developers or alternate platforms in terms of pricing, licensing and development 
roadmap,  I would hesitate to code anything that relies any more 
heavily on that platform.  

JS
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5/11/01 1:22:51 PM, Porter Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hey -
>
>I'm sure some of you are already on the loop on this.  But, have you all
>had a chance to check out Groove?  While it is Windows only (right now) I
>would urge you all to try and take a look.
>
>"Groove software lets you create secure shared spaces wher you make
>instant and direct online connections with others to share information and
>get things done..."
>
>"The Groove client and platform reside securely on the individual's PC,
>not on a Web site or server, giving users control over how, when and with
>whom they interact.  The Groove client includes tools for voice, and
>text-based communications, file sharing, and many other interactive
>activities, while the Groove platform supports standard development
>languages, built in security and an XML code base, making it easy to build
>additional tools as needed..."
>
>In short, it's pretty slick.  The entirety of a shared space (all files,
>messages, pictures, sketchpads, notepads, outlines, etc) resides on the
>hard-disk of every participant of the shared space.  It is secure both
>on-the-wire and on-disk (ie. encrypted). It uses the exchange of public
>keys to enable secure, instant messaging - as well as the exchange of
>changes to the shared space.
>
>I have the sneaking suspicion that one could do some of this with
>Rebol/View/Pro (encryption is a must).  Groove is currently based on COM -
>which despite their developer docs to the contrary - is still pretty much
>a Windows only technology.  Almost all of the "tools" in a space are built
>around standard COM objects, or around the framework of COM objects that
>Groove provides.  So - like I said, some of this sort of thing could
>certainly be done with Rebol/View/Pro;  even more could be done if you
>simply leveraged the COM objects they already provide - but then you would
>loose most of the cross-platform capability that Rebol provides.
>
>Please, everyone who is able - take a look at:
>
>       http://www.groove.net/
>
>
>
>- Porter Woodward
>
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