----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyphre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: Flash tech? Was Re: Re: (No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:20:09 -0500
> Hi Jason, Donald and all, > > I'm everyday working with Macromedia Director so I don't have so much > experience with Flash directly but I think these two products are very > similar in some aspects. > From my POV Macromedia stuff and their philosophy is very poor against > Rebol. Yes, Flash and Director has some more gfx features than /View but > man, It is version 5(Flash) and 8.5(Director)!! I think Macromedia has just > one big monopol in their "internet-multimedia" field/market because there is > not almost any good alternative technology to compete with. > If RT guys would work on /View multimedia stuff intesively for about one > year they could have made /View as a big competitior against > Flash(Director). Rebol/View, although it lacks (for now) things like vector > gfx, font engine, rotation, alpha channels, free sound, streaming, > multimedia format support, embedded plugin, it has lots of advatnages...very > good core, the language itself, the communication stuff such as ports, > protocols, and very good mutiplatfom standard quality, cheap prize. And there is no doubt in my mind that Carl is already headed there! Enjoy!! Ammon >(I > believe, most of you will agree that we couldnot compare Rebol against > crappy ActionScript or even Lingo.) > > Anyway both technologies has own cool developers and software pieces( just > have a look at: > http://www.vectorlounge.com/04_amsterdam/jam/wireframe.html ) > > I don't want to make any flame wars against MM fans/haters. I just wanted to > point out the possibilities for Rebol/View(Hey RT guys! What about eat few > pieces from big Macromedias money-pie? ;-) ). I still believe RT could make > from /View far more better multimedia engine than all MM products are... > > just my 2 cents ;) > > regards > > Cyphre > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Dalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:49 PM > Subject: [REBOL] Flash tech? Was Re: Re: (No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 > 17:20:09 -0500 > > > > Hello, Jason: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:45 AM > > Subject: [REBOL] Re: (No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:20:09 -0500 > > > > > But a REBOL-FLASH dialect may be very useful path towards that. > > > > > > One should not understand the fundamental strength of the Flash dynamic > > > object paradigm: nested Flash movie clips each of which have their own > > > timeline. [goodexample: http://www.levitated.net/ ] > > > > That's it? ;^( > > > > I have yet to see any redeeming value to any Flash, including these. Some > > don't work (at least 2 didn't at your paradigm site); most authors don't > use > > redundancy access methods, in case it won't work right, locking non-Flash > > and/or Flash users out of a site entirely (found another site last week); > > most are an assault on my senses (read as yuck, yeow! or who cares); all > > take too long to acquire, unless you have DSL/cable (read as too BIG, > > restrictive and, ultimately, a grand waste of my time). > > > > In short, Flash sucks, big time! I am not alone in thinking that Flash is > a > > technology/art looking for an audience - a make-work project enabler. > > Someone may find a useful, necessary or earth-shattering application for > it > > some day, but, until then, I remain skeptical and unimpressed by its > usage. > > > > How is REBOL going to benefit from that kind of environment? Bad > > programming/content is bad programming/content, no matter what the > > language/art or medium in which it is done. > > > > > > Sorry, Jason - I am not being anti-art, here, or a tech Ludite. I grew up > > surrounded by arts/fine arts and am now an artist in my own ways, too - > it's > > just that I know what I like. In Flash's case, it's what I don't like. > > > > Besides, from the POV of a Libra, it looked as if this Flash love-in > needed > > some "balance". <stepping off soapbox> > > > > Donald Dalley > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > > subject, without the quotes. > > > > > > > --- > Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. > Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). > Verze: 6.0.282 / Virová báze: 150 - datum vydání: 25.9.2001 > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
