Just doing additional testing with the following results

The string to compress...
"A sentence is nothing more than a collection of symbols."

Original - 448 bits
Huffman only - 212 bits
LSEC - 136 bits (LFReD Standard English Compression.. our system)
Huffman/LSEC - 64 bits

By first compressing with LSEC, then compressing the results with Huffman
yields a compression of just over 14 % of original size with 0 loss.

Again, this only works with text documents or correspondence, chat dialog,
newspaper articles etc.

Terry Brownell

----- Original Message -----
From: "alan parman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:20 AM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Rebol and a new compression system.


> Terry,
> Sounds great! Would have many uses where text is the medium (html, REBOL
scripts, e-mail, etc).
>
> However, I will remain politely skeptical until I see it in action.
> While I don't have much experience with the mechanics of compression, I
have read some about it.
> And from that I am heartened by your description of giving better
compression for a specific type of file ("This works only for communication
using standard english words...").  _A_Lot_ of work has been done in this
area, and _many_ claims of a better system have been proven false. But, many
compression schemes are tuned for _any_ type of file (standard zip , PKZIP
WinZip etc), so claims for a better system for a specific type of file are
plausible.
>
> I am openly skeptical about your (implied) claim that you can greatly
compress an already compressed file ("If a better compression system than
winzip is used, then the 213 would be even smaller.").  While not
impossible, I would like to see if it is a general phenomenon for any
English text file.
>
> Can it be tuned for REBOL scripts?
>
> I've been toying with using huffman-encoding (thanks RebolForces!) on the
level of words instead of characters. Is this similar to your scheme?
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