GSJ> > Accessing Hotmail thru http, if I recall correctly,
GSJ> > requires a combination
GSJ> > of cookie management and javascript, thereby effectively
GSJ> > eliminating the use
GSJ> > of REBOL.  I've not investigated the optional pop access.
> >
From: "Graham Chiu"
> I wonder how Windows messenger does it ... as it is unlikely
> to be using javascript to determine that you have new
> hotmail.

Hi, Graham,

I was just thinking about you today, in that I don't see you posting as much
as you used to.

You have a good question, and I don't know the answer.  But the http login
appears to use JavaScript to manage the SSL login, and then a computer
generated key is used to identify the user, and the key is managed
dynamically.  A regular http connection is used after the log on.  I am
assuming that the cookie is storing the updated keys as they are generated,
but I have not checked further into this possibility.  The additional kink
(again if I recall correctly) is that trying to access the site through the
standard web http interface requires following redirected url's, which
requires the http scheme hack that Maarten (I think) and I kind of batted
around last spring.  I guess Messenger could do a quick check with https (or
a private channel???  Packet sniffer, anyone?).  Outlook Express uses an
http address for its sign in, so I can only assume that it is doing
something similar.  I guess I shouldn't have answered J M's mail, but I was
trying to be helpful.

Regards,
--Scott Jones

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