"Creating a Web services with a single platform such as J2EE typically requires the use of a dozen or more technologies and languages such as XML, HTML, SQL, XSLT, JSP, JavaServlets, JavaScript, JavaDoc, CSS, and shell scripts. In contrast, Water adheres to a "Learn Once, Use Everywhere" philosophy that allows you to apply a simple set of methods to all aspects of development. Water leverages your current investment in technology by integrating with existing systems and Web services. Water can eliminate the need for most special-purpose languages and tools thus lowering development costs."
Hmmm. Never heard anything like THAT before... :) I totally agree with the first sentence, though. Current web development practices are INSANEly burdensome, and although I don't believe in silver bullets, there has to be a middle ground. REBOL, for me, is part of that middle ground. I think I recall someone on this list mentioning something I agree with totally - XML is heirarchical in nature, and most of our problems are not - so XML is not going to get us very far by it's very structure, never mind the inefficiencies of transformation, marshalling, large data packets, unmarshalling, parsing, transforming, etc. Water is a Java 2 app, BTW, and I bet that most folks will find out quickly they need to drop into XML, HTML, SQL, XSLT, JSP, JavaServlets, JavaScript, JavaDoc, CSS, and shell scripts in order to reach all audiences with all browsers on all machines with the current mess we have created. That said, I would love to see REBOL embeddable in browsers (REBOL Web Start/Services, anyone?), and IOS seriously scaleable/multithreaded/multiprocessor on the backend. REBOL is a great language with a ton of potential (500K with a compositing GUI on 42 platforms is nothing short of AMAZING), but the world is HTML, JavaScript and browsers for quite a while yet, and REBOL has to play in that sandbox - more than just HTML/XML parsing support, it needs to be integrated. Kemp -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerard Cote Sent: August 28, 2002 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [REBOL] InformIT.com Articles Introduction to Water™ A New Native Web Services Hi everybody, This morning I was continuing my Internet quest to see how could be integrated REBOL inside of MSIE as an alternative scripting option to Javascript and Java and I thought that it could also be integrated in the form of a Web Services development tool. So I read with interest this article that could shed me some light about a recent product that is available on the market. In fact this could be a model to follow with REBOL about what has to be done. I say this because of some recent discussion that appeared on this ML. HTH! every newbie and others too... to position REBOL against what is the new reality of Web services. Gerard -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
