On 18-Jan-04, Ed O'Connor wrote:

> I downloaded and played with it a bit on Friday. I was very
> underwhelmed. It's an interesting approach, but ultimately it felt
> like an experimental learning environment.

> FYI: There's an interesting review on OS News:
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5687

And going by this pic...  http://img.osnews.com/img/5687/nbor1.png it
certainly looks windowish - quite a bit of over-lapping rectangles
there.

> Creating a genuinely better GUI is doable, but it requires a
> painstaking amount of user research, testing and refinement. Most
> small companies & open source projects simply don't have the right
> mix of resources to do it right, and are much better off aping
> current GUIs. Now and then we see a small evolutionary improvement,
> and eventually it gets incorporated in GUI toolkits. Maybe something
> will shake out of NBOR.

Yeah - but most everything else will be kept, so just added to the
clutter.

> Long-shot bets are fun, but I wouldn't advise RT to go into more
> experimental areas until they have a standard widget set well
> implemented.

I wasn't thinking RT should attempt it.  We can make our own VIDs from
View after all.

> The current minimum set is probably HTML (mixed with
> whatever can be done with DOM/Javascript)-- which is a respectably
> high standard. Does anyone know if the VID project has published
> list of VID improvements on the way?

This what you want...

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r

? See the "Completed Requests" starting about halfway down.

> With regard to being sick of WIMP interfaces, amen. I'm hoping we'll
> see some creative interfaces that provide CLI/console productivity
> integrated in rich interfaces. Kinda hard to describe what that
> would look like, though!

Yeah.  Even if you have a good GUI idea, trying to explain it's near
impossible.

-- 
Carl Read

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